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Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #175

My bet is that people will start posting a comment saying "upvote this comment if you want to downvote", the comment will rank first and it will be as if you have a public dislike count

They will probably be added to the list of auto-delete I suspect very quickly.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

Youtube doesn't f*** care. Where are you going to go watch your favorite content creators? Oh, they only upload on our platform? Thought so. They can do whatever they want and they won't lose a single user. In fact, I wanted to cancel my Youtube Premium, but I know it's not gonna affect their decision in the slightest, while I will hurt my favourite content creators as they won't get that thousandth of a cent they ge…

I just don't subscribe. It isn't even about incentives or trying to punish or whatever.

Paying for the privilege of interacting with some shitty thing I don't like to be entertained.... doesn't seem entertaining to me.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you can't see a video has a 1:9 like:dislike ratio to tell you it's not worth your time. Granted, you'll (probably) be able to tell from the comments, for now. I'm not convinced how much it'd actually impact watch time, but it seems to be the thesis.

> 1:9 like:dislike ratio to tell you it's not worth your time Is this really a good metric? Counterpoint: many news videos related to Covid are heavily downvoted. Does that mean that they're bad coverage? or that people don't like to hear what the news has to say?

It’s pretty telling for some types of content and not so much for others. I’m more then capable of using it where it matters and understanding why some content might be massively downvotes (but then still often find it informative)

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #309

So... wait... YT is deleting all his comments... except the one that criticized the Dislike button? Wouldn't they just delete that comment? Something is amiss here.

They probably use a different mechanism to suppress that comment as to reduce the possibility of users finding out that their comments are being deleted. Or at least reduce the impact of that particular user if they are going to keep posting similar comments multiple times.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

I'm so confused why would hiding the dislike count impact the internal recommendation engine that has access to the dislike count?

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suppose a person hired by Google is paid $60 per hour, and can review 20 video comments in that time with a reasonable thoughtfulness. So every human review costs Google $3. The entire revenue of $20B could be blown through on reviewing 6B comments. If you want to keep this activity to 10% of revenue, that caps you to 600M comments. > No it's not And I specifically said the site operators; people hired by Google to m…

who in their right mind would hire a content moderator for 60$ an hour? It would most likely be the work of some off shore English Speaking Country like India and they would get 6$ an hour, AI would first flag or not flag things and then the human moderators would intervene, just like how Facebook and China does it.

"These offshore low paid moderators are doing a bad job" - hackernews 2022

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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I really hope this backfires spectacularly on YouTube and the zealots who pushed for this change are held professionally accountable. I already click on fewer videos in search results and recommendations because I can no longer gauge how worthwhile they are to try and watch. The end result? I'm sticking to my current channels. I can't be alone and knowing that YouTube takes recommended content so seriously, I have to…

Youtube doesn't f*** care. Where are you going to go watch your favorite content creators? Oh, they only upload on our platform? Thought so. They can do whatever they want and they won't lose a single user. In fact, I wanted to cancel my Youtube Premium, but I know it's not gonna affect their decision in the slightest, while I will hurt my favourite content creators as they won't get that thousandth of a cent they ge…

I think if you feel like YT is in the wrong and still care about your favorite creators the right thing to do is to cancel your Premium membership. The greater good here is to team up against YT since in the long run removing dislikes is bad for majority of YT users including the creators.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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> "Please take a screenshot of the comments that are missing so that we can use it as samples for investigation."

I cracked up. This is the hell world we have been pushing for - it's arrived.

I have a similar IRL situation where I live. I need a vaccine passport to go into places where I can request an ID (which can only be done in person). I need an ID to apply for a vaccine passport.

One has to wonder whether these systems are broken by design.

Re: YouTube deleting comments who criticize their hiding of the dislike count

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post #81

Hacker News has a similar problem with comments: net_votes = up_votes - down_votes You need at least two of the above variables to get an idea of both the direction and magnitude of the voting. Hacker News provides only one: net_votes. YouTube used to provide up_votes and down_votes, effectively providing all three. Now YouTube has reduced its information to up_votes, so they're now down to one variable in the equati…

Having a functionality and then removing it is very different than never having it in the first place.
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