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Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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FWIW, the problem wasn't a generalized grid management problem. It was a failure to properly winterize gas plants for rare freezing events. The Texas grid itself is in reasonable shape as far as I know.

"The grid" tends to refer to more than just the transmission wires.

“The grid” never refers to just the transmission wires.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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> Morris Chang has been exceptionally clear He can be "exceptionally clear" and still biased in favor of TMSC. > It is impossible with respect to current cost structure Well, we'll have to pay a few cents (or dollars) more per chip then. It is infeasible for us to continue to depend on TMSC in the long term - it will be taken over by our largest geopolitical adversary by 2030 at the latest. We do not have a choice bu…

>He can be "exceptionally clear" and still biased in favor of TMSC. Probably. But It wasn't that TSMC doesn't want to move, he made it clear the maths doesn't work out. Giga Fabs operate at scale and efficiency is precisely why you could make a $30 M1 Die. >Well, we'll have to pay a few cents (or dollars) more per chip then. That is easier for mature node. But most of the time we are not talking about mature node but…

OK, then we'll pay $20 more for a $3K laptop. Hardly a tragedy. Same with labor by the way. If Apple made phones here and charged $20-30 more per unit, their user base wouldn't even blink.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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The going deal is, if there’s a power failure, we’ll let you recoup your costs from the taxpayers even as you profiteer. The governor can be bought for a very affordable $1 million. Certainly the incentives are aligned to solve this problem! https://www.texasobserver.org/after-kelcy-warrens-energy-tra...

It remains to be seen if shifting the cost to taxpayers is harmful to the economy or not.

...but it will almost certainly hurt the taxpayers as a whole.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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Texas is the size of 4 Bangladesh's. Why do they have build everything in the vicinity of Austin?

Most of Texas is very remote and hard to attract talent or investment to. Certainly cheaper to put the plant in Uvalde or something, but harder to recruit hard tech talent there.

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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After the TX grid failure last winter, it's probably not a coincidence that Samsung's new facility will be near ERCOT's operation center in Taylor, which manages the TX grid, and will likely be the last load to shed when the grid's stressed. Used to work in the Austin fab, and the amount of money lost per minute in a power failure is mind boggling. The tax breaks Taylor offered ($314m) are not that different from wha…

They are setting up fairly close to Tesla. Wonder if they are working on a deal for Tesla to provide battery backup. Interestingly enough Austin, TX appears to be rapidly approaching SF status as a tech hub and may soon surpass them. Its an interesting thing to watch and really gives insight into how politics and taxes affect business and growth.

The Bay Area had something like 20x as much VC investment as Austin as of 2017 [0]. This article [1] indicates that the trend is probably in Austin's favor, as I'd expect, but it also shows that Austin isn't even in the top 10 nationally (unless they lump it in with San Antonio?) by deal count as of 2020.

[0] https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/the-bay-area-beyond-rank...

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/14/silicon-valleys-share-of-ven...

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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The going deal is, if there’s a power failure, we’ll let you recoup your costs from the taxpayers even as you profiteer. The governor can be bought for a very affordable $1 million. Certainly the incentives are aligned to solve this problem! https://www.texasobserver.org/after-kelcy-warrens-energy-tra...

It remains to be seen if shifting the cost to taxpayers is harmful to the economy or not.

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I wonder if the siren thing varies from location to location, In my experience (former firefighter here), it absolutely does. It also varies by call type, time of day, etc. So if we got a call at 2:00 AM and there was no traffic on the road near the station, we might leave the station with no siren out of respect for the people trying to sleep in the homes very close to the station. This would be more true if the cal…

>getting on the Q pretty much right out the door Q?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q2B

Re: Samsung plans $17B chip plant in Taylor, Texas

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In particular, all of Seoul is in artillery range of the north

Rusty dusty equipment that probably won't even fire.. that offensive line is hardly a major threat

It doesn't matter if it is a 100 year old artillery piece, they aren't exactly complicated, just large breach loaded guns. The only thing modern guns and artillery have over old guns is accuracy, which doesn't really matter when you have enough of them firing down range at a massive target.
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