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Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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Re: Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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serious question: what does lambda school or any other bootcamp provide that isn't available online already for free or cheap?

freecodecamp.org theodinproject limitless various courses.

curriculum is out there, /r/learnprogramming is very helpful, plethora of discords. what do they provide in 2022 that is worth ~10-20k?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep redrafting a blog post in my head about this cycle and how it means that even though the world is getting better, every specific brand is getting worse. (There was a wonderful post about Starbucks specifically that I now can't find, talking about how they grew their reputation by having hand-made coffee that people loved before switching to machine brewing that required less skill and people wouldn't hate). I…

Yeah it's a reasonable point of view. The other way to go on that is you're in an country whose culture you don't understand which as a wildly corrupt, crony-riddled military dictator and nobody has any rights at all. Do you want locally bottled Coke(tm) with the red label and dynamic ribbon for your very thirsty child or locally bottled "Odin's Thirst Quencher! (est. 2021)"? Coke are going to enforce quality control…

> Do you want locally bottled Coke(tm) with the red label and dynamic ribbon for your very thirsty child or locally bottled "Odin's Thirst Quencher! (est. 2021)"?

> Coke are going to enforce quality control and safety to protect their brand or get out of that market. There is no regulation you can rely on in this mythical country - but there are quite a few countries like that which you may know yourself from having visited them.

I'd argue that in a lawless country people have no faith in the brands either. Look at the fake Apple stores in China, or at parents importing identically-branded baby formula from abroad because they (justifiably) didn't trust the locally produced version.

Re: Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I keep redrafting a blog post in my head about this cycle and how it means that even though the world is getting better, every specific brand is getting worse. (There was a wonderful post about Starbucks specifically that I now can't find, talking about how they grew their reputation by having hand-made coffee that people loved before switching to machine brewing that required less skill and people wouldn't hate). I…

Yeah it's a reasonable point of view. The other way to go on that is you're in an country whose culture you don't understand which as a wildly corrupt, crony-riddled military dictator and nobody has any rights at all. Do you want locally bottled Coke(tm) with the red label and dynamic ribbon for your very thirsty child or locally bottled "Odin's Thirst Quencher! (est. 2021)"? Coke are going to enforce quality control…

>But the higher issue is information. Should you be able to sell the same product with a very different quality under the same name?

Barq's famously does this and doesn't seem to have any issues.

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serious question: what does lambda school or any other bootcamp provide that isn't available online already for free or cheap? freecodecamp.org theodinproject limitless various courses. curriculum is out there, /r/learnprogramming is very helpful, plethora of discords. what do they provide in 2022 that is worth ~10-20k?

bootcamp grad here (different bootcamp - Fullstack Academy in NYC). i completed freecodecamp before doing my bootcamp. did not feel job ready, did not have any leads on jobs, barely made it thru freecodecamp copying and pasting code that kinda sorta worked.

let me put it this way. at the end of my bootcamp they had a "hiring day". ~20 employers came by for ~40 students, including Google. I ended up getting a job with the very first hiring manager I sat down with that day, for 160k base.

granted, i'm abnormal, and we had "failures" too, but i have many friends whose career change was eased because the bootcamp had taken care to build quality relationships with employers.

one more example. one time my computer just borked. create react app (or whatever we were doing that day) just refused to run. I had no idea but something in my $PATH was corrupted somehow. i was unable to do anything, and asking for help online wouldve been very futile. instead, i raised my hand, and my instructor (hi Cassio!) came over, showed me how to debug, and had me back up and running in 5 mins so I could continue learning.

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It's an issue in market information where regulation can't really work [1]. Vendors have a brand. They establish the value of the brand such that purchasers have a signal that they aren't going to be ripped off. For example you can be pretty sure coca-cola isn't going to cut costs to the point where they don't care about putting poison in the bottle - and you don't need regulation to know they won't do it. Zeus-Cola?…

Hertz is currently cannibalizing their brand and customer base by charging outrageous fees (cleaning, late) and refusing the refund them even when proven wrong. https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-06-11/column-her...

Fascinating. U-Haul was/is famous for this too.

A decade ago I rented a large U-Haul for a move. I knew how crappy they were and purchased the insurance just figuring it in as the "true" cost of the rental.

I pick up the truck at like 4:00pm. The truck they gave me had some serious damage to the box, it had been painted over. I documented everything and went on my way.

I return the truck at ~12pm the next morning. I get a call a few hours later from U-Haul saying I'd damaged the truck to the tune of $1700 or so. I told them, "So whats your theory? That I drove the truck 100 miles, damaged it and had time to paint over the damage and for that paint to dry in 16 hours? And, I bought the insurance anyways SO WHY THE F** ARE YOU CALLING ME?!"

Some businesses are so routinely corrupt its unusual if they're not trying to cheat you.

Another time, I took my vehicle which had very expensive tires (think $650 each) to an Allen Tire for a slow leak in one of them (would deflate once a week). I took pictures of my tires bcause I had been dreading this and putting it off for months because-- I knew what would happen. And it did:

They called me a few hours later and said one of my tires had been slashed and that I would have to replace both rear tires. The guy was a great actor. He genuinely sounded distressed over my misfortune. I told them to put the tire back on and I'd pay a reasonable fee. They refused, "Sir we can't do that, the car is unsafe to drive."

I am livid at this point. I made probably a poor decision... I calmly explained that I was missing my regularly scheduled shooting practice (which was true) and I am coming down there, with the guns that I intend to take to the practice, so I hope my old tire will be on the car so I won't be late.

When I got there (no guns of course), they had magically discovered a nail in the tire and they were sorry for the mistake. The same bastard trying to scam me was outrageously apologetic for the "mix-up."

anyways, if you made it through this slog of a post thank you! Little bored this evening...

Re: Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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Are there any reputable bootcamps? Serious question as someone who wants to transition from IT Management to programming.

There are some that are run by accredited brick-and-mortar colleges. I don't specifically know how good they are, but that's where I would start looking.

They're almost all cases of the university lending its name and occasionally space to companies that provide the curriculum, instructors and examination. Not a lot different from any other bootcamp except there's less incentive to have quality anything because people trust the university brandname.

Re: Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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The author’s tweet thread has the key points and documents: https://twitter.com/fulligin/status/1452658640809197569 edit: on top of the problems with Lambda’s offerings, losing 7 out of 9 executives since 2020 is rough: https://twitter.com/fulligin/status/1452658652448362497

Vincent's interview with This Week in Startups on Lambda School is also very interesting despite the weird McCarthyist line of questioning the host goes down. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hUT8VZNvm8

not weird at all if you know Jason's style. he is very biased towards supporting founders as that is his business. he's not there to be neutral. and i believe he's had some bad runs with some journos.

but once they're a clear fraud i expect (hope?) Jason to concede completely.

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I was at Lambda when they announced the switch from 9 to 6 months and the elimination of paid team leaders. The feedback was universally negative. In a channel for open student discussion, Austen Allred deleted a poll from Slack because of how lopsided the reaction was. He explained the deletion by saying the poll was "misleading." Students then got a survey "explaining" why the change was actually a good thing by as…

Interestingly enough, all of these comments could have been said about my experience at $BOOTCAMP that I attended and then was later hired at as a mentor. The degradation of quality from the removal of human presence is a common narrative, and the students react to it so much more than management ever realizes. > at no point did I feel like Lambda at its top level prioritized student wellbeing over PR, costs, or metr…

I had a sort of similar thing with Udacity and their front end web dev nanodegree program. They would literally change the content of classes WHILE people were taking them. I got so confused and fed up that I just quit the program altogether, even though the only thing I had left to do was an exit interview. They weren't going to see another dime of my money.

Re: Lambda School leaked documents show poor performance over the last two years

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serious question: what does lambda school or any other bootcamp provide that isn't available online already for free or cheap? freecodecamp.org theodinproject limitless various courses. curriculum is out there, /r/learnprogramming is very helpful, plethora of discords. what do they provide in 2022 that is worth ~10-20k?

Structure, guidance, accountability, connections. At least theoretically.

It's wonderful that so much material is free, but it's an overwhelming amount of information for the uninitiated. Some people can self-motivate and self-teach starting from zero. Some cannot. Some would just prefer a formal curriculum and instructor. Nothing wrong with that.

And the best bootcamps have a direct relationship into companies for internships and junior dev positions.

Unfortunately as bootcamp hype has exploded, many bootcamps do not offer these things and are of dubious value.

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