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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wpietri »

krzyk wrote: post #227
TheHypnotist wrote: post #182

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Uh, there is a technical reason on demonstration as well. Don't try so hard to be that guy. "Take authentic, accurate portraits with Real Tone. Portraits on Pixel represent the nuances of different skin tones for all people beautifully and authentically."

But that's the point, they don't show all popular skin tones on those portraits.

That's because photography has a long history of being developed specifically for white people: https://www.vox.com/2015/9/18/9348821/photography-race-bias

The point is that now they've broadened the range where the camera works well. So they are showing what's improved.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by krzyk »

jeltz wrote: post #287
krzyk wrote: post #268

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Not only at launch. Google limits Pixel sales/support to a small set of countries. Doesn't even include all EU. Strange tactic for someone wanting to sell more phones.

Pixel 5 was never sold in Sweden. I bought mine from a French webshop which ships to Sweden.

And Sweden at least has Google Store.

In Poland we don't. I bought my Pixel 4 from German Amazon, which ships directly to Poland.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by spinax »

executive wrote: post #247
Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

https://www.asus.com/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/

From a quick look at tech specs from a few sources (asus, gsmarena, etc.) the USA version lacks 5G band n41, which is the backbone of T-Mobile (+Sprint).

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by krzyk »

jbluepolarbear wrote: post #304
krzyk wrote: post #248

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Why do you think white people are over represented in tech (you forgot about Asians, which are there also)? Because they are interested in it. Just like some like math, others like sports. Why e.g. women are the majority of teachers (at least in my country)? They like to teach, are good with children. That's natural and you won't change that with ads that reverse the ethnic proportions in given country.

This is a systemic way of thinking. “Oh, most of the people working in this industry is one thing, let’s isolate this group further and discourage others from joining”. That’s how you sound. Also, depending what on the source white people (in the US) account for between 60 to 70 percent of the tech work force.

Why discourage? How? By doing what?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by wpietri »

krzyk wrote: post #251
JediWing wrote: post #121

The launch of this phone was utterly botched. There's a hilarious dissonance between the talk of SoC design, AI, computational photography and ambient computing and the inability to handle a website with a relatively simple purchase flow for a phone that, let's be real, probably has about 1/10 th of the interest and web traffic of the iPhone. From the moment the store website went live with these phones there were al…

People will never learn. You don't preorder Pixels, there are always better deals on Black Friday (literally in few weeks, just a week after Pixel start shipping). Never take preorders, especially with Pixels. (learned that hard with Pixel 3).

And personally, I won't buy anything directly from Google ever again. Their customer service for me has been terrible. I'll happily buy another Pixel, but from pretty much anybody else.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by ericmay »

howinteresting wrote: post #307
ericmay wrote: post #298

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No I'm not being sarcastic - I think calling the apps a skin on top of Safari is a bit of an over-simplification. Most features that users notice happen at this skin layer, not the rendering layer. It's peak HN to really be caring about this especially as Apple offers (as far as I know) no performance difference across browsers using Webkit or w/e. You could actually just say that Safari itself is a skin too, just th…

What about security updates or new HTML features? Chrome or Firefox on Android get security updates for many years after official system updates end. The same is not true for Apple.

Don't think most users know or care about security or HTML features so while certainly it's a difference it's unlikely to be important for most users.

Think of Safari as a skin that's unbundled from the engine. While Chrome or Firefox are reliant on Apple to update the engine, so is Safari, but neither are reliant on Apple for other functionality that they want to implement that users can take advantage of.

IMO it's modular enough.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by jbluepolarbear »

krzyk wrote: post #314
jbluepolarbear wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a systemic way of thinking. “Oh, most of the people working in this industry is one thing, let’s isolate this group further and discourage others from joining”. That’s how you sound. Also, depending what on the source white people (in the US) account for between 60 to 70 percent of the tech work force.

Why discourage? How? By doing what?

Please research systemic racism in the tech industry. PoC have harder times getting interviews, getting a second interview, finding mentors, getting raises, getting promotions, etc. These all discourage non white people from entering the industry.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by christophilus »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

I don't know what you're talking about. This guy[0] looks white to me. As does this guy[1]. I'm white, and those guys look like they could be my brothers.

[0] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/DPnlGlqAvyUh51bNizF0EIC6Pk... [1] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s6bCli03aqnY_KvZoPaTgiFqCj...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by 0xebc »

eric_b wrote: post #89

This will get downvoted immediately but what the heck. I understand we need better representation for people of color in many places - but dang Google, not a single white guy on the Pixel 6 page [0]?? Dozens of photos of people, not one white male. Sort of jarring in the reverse if you ask me. [0] https://store.google.com/product/pixel_6?hl=en-US Edit: Because the common reply to mine seems to be "Well now you know h…

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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by pkulak »

eis wrote: post #274

Google seems to have for some reason requested a very/overly broad embargo from reviewers which does not let them show any photos taken with the device or software features for now. MKBHD mentions this (and shows nothing from the phone really) @ https://youtu.be/roWxo6jWoYw?t=140 And Mrwhosetheboss said he refused to cover these phones due to the embargo. The Tech Chap mentions he can't show anything apart from the h…

Did you notice MKBHD said this kind of embargo is a "red flag". Well, he already knows any issues that may exist, so it's very interesting that he chose to say this.
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