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Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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Thank you very much, I am proud to say that I did this wrong for at least 10 years :D Thanks!

There is a shortcut to remember this: 'e.g.' for 'example given' (and therefore, 'i.e.' for 'that is'). ('E.g.' doesn't really mean 'example given' in English - it means 'exempli gratia' in Latin. But it's a useful mnemonic.)

I also use "in essence" for "i.e." even though it's actually 'id est' in Latin.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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This is good to hear. I didn't think the percentages would be that high. "Data driven design" is kinda overrated anyway. It's better to actually listen to your users. Stats don't show what people think, and they're often tweaked to show what people want to see.

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> not important to protect free speech, free enterprise and free association?

Analytics is able to track your speech, enterprise and association to facilitate their encroachment. Part of the metadata collected from messaging apps, for example, is the network graph of your interactions with other users. Association. If you're not using something E2EE, that's speech as well. And so on.

> the real threat of social media is promoting left-wing extremism and censorship.

Oh, you're one of those.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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What? Apple is even worse. There was a big cry when Google wanted to nuter adblockers API but Apple have done exactly the same thing. You fell into a pr stunt. Apple doesn't care for privacy. Just look at how they scan you pictures..

Apple literally built an API for ad-blocking. How is that worse?

Are you referring to the "content blocker" API? Because that basically forces plug-ins to supply a list of blocked domains. Just like Google's upcoming changes. Neither allow you to run your own engine for blocking like what uBlock Origin does.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

> They faked the ratings away from stupid trash TV towards some higher quality stuff, documentaries, culture, ... Obviously in the movie then the country saw a renaissance, everyone got smarter, yadda yadda, you get it. > I feel like this is similar. All tech savvy people block ads and analytics and at least the known tricks they use against us. So the internet only tracks the defenseless people and is then built to…

>why should we put up with it?

You, your friends, and your family personally don't have to put up with it. Ublock Origin can block ads on Youtube with ease.

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

there are too many popups, especially now with how many cookie pop-ups work. So the easiest way is try to ignore it if possible. Ok, yeah, the best way would be to block it completely but as this shows again: humans are lazy creatures. Every click is a click too much.

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There is a German movie about the system that is used to gather TV ratings. It's a special box that some users get which reports what they are watching. Small sample size goes into a big statistic (not sure how accurate the portrayal of the system in the movie is). These boxes are given to the people who pay the German public TV fee, which excludes i.e. students (they don't have to pay) and some other groups. This gr…

As someone who has been in one or another meeting with German TV stations I can assure you this is not completely far fetched. The people deciding what is running at these stations are of the mindset (a translated quote): > Our average viewer is 65 years old and watches TV while doing the dishes, we must not show things that cannot be understood by them and then they will serenade about how they would "love to have a…

Well, you say that, but isn't that exactly why Netflix got rid of ratings?

All the documentaries were getting really high ratings, so would display highly in searches, but not many people actually watched them.

It's the same for most content, I read a huge amount. I do read some intellectual books, but only occasionally. The rest of the time I read utter, thoroughly entertaining, trash.

I don't want to read about an existential crisis after programming all day, I want someone to hit something with a big sword and get the girl.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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How do you deal with "please disable adblocker" messages? I found them way more annoying than the ads themselves.

Any website with a fully blocking message I disable JavaScript entirely in uBO. If the site is still unusable after that I just close the tab.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I am amazed at how non-techy people use the internet. I teach college and I will sometimes have students go to some web site. I am amazed at how few use adblocking and just accept all the ads and popups and overlays and crap. Even more than that, I will see them using something like google docs and google will put an overlay for some new feature and they don't click the X to close it. They just type away with that ov…

Yes, and it goes further than that: "Should I add an ad-blocker to your browser for an ad-free internet experience.. it'll only take 2 sec." and they respond: "Nah, not needed".

And also "You are using the worst browser available to you (Samsung), shall I install Firefox?" and then "Nah, don't care".

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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This is highly inaccurate. The author is using Plausible via a proxy but Google Analytics directly (a very biased way to do things). Secondly, PiHole, uBlock origin and most other adblockers also block Plausible analytics (there are discussions on their own Github Issues regarding it). If you are proxying Plausible to get accurate readings, same should be done with GA.

I don’t read this as Plausible vs GA but server-side anything (including a GA proxy) vs client-side GA. in that case, it doesn’t seem like these figures should be wildly wrong.

They definitely did, this is not a GA vs server side comparison. From the source :

> I compared stats between Plausible Analytics and Google Analytics.

Re: Tech-savvy audiences block Google Analytics

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I surf in private mode. A super simple solution for all your tracking protection needs people. It boggles my mind how this comes up again and again yet we have private browsing since when? The 90s? Don’t be lazy - that’s the real reason, isn’t it? Having to login again..

Chrome's incognito mode doesn't block Google Analytics.
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