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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

This is the most frustrating thing about Rogan for me... if he were talking to people as an uniformed layman and sharing his opinion in an effort to weed through his thoughts and become more informed, that would be great! We need more people who are willing to be wrong and learn from that. This is often how Bill Burr comes across (to me, anyway).

But Rogan's not that. He likes to hear himself talk, throws his opinions at experts as if they're equally valid, invites charlatans on and equates them with experts, rarely changes his mind, and comes out of it just as dumb as he came into it. Then people emulate him and end up in a state where they're less able to learn, and frankly, bigger assholes.

It's barely even a shtick, it's the same old pseudo-intellectual machismo that has always plagued society.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I wonder if Rogan would 'not lose influence' had he changed nothing. Feels like these kind of personalities, while they can have long careers, growth / reach isn't infinite or sustainable.

yeah, i think he kind of peaked shortly before the period where he was so obsessive with his attempts to outrage people over pronouns. i seemed to stop hearing about him around that time other than the headlines surrounding the spotify deal of course.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Comedian Bill Burr said it best: "I'm not gonna sit here with no medical degree, listening to you with no medical degree, with an American flag behind you smoking a cigar acting like we know what's up better than the CDC." [0] That quote is Joe Rogan's shtick in a nutshell. [0] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tSKVXl-WnrA&t=5m20s

During that episode I have came to conclusion that Bill Burr is who Joe Rogan sees as himself. Eloquent, humorous, says-he's-stupid-but-he-is-actually-smart, able to step back and look at all the stupid stuff everyone does (including himself). Except Rogan is actually this: https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/8xofvi/joe_rogan_...

I've noticed that a lot of overly-confident people do this. They essentially have a list of preferred topics and always try to bring the conversation to those topics.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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The ads on Spotify for paying US users is what keeps me off of it for the most part. You can fast forward but it's a gigantic pain in the ass. Their UX is awful too compared to a simple web app, they should just clone a basic Youtube/Odysee/Rumble functionality for their video side.

Wait, -paying- users get ads in the US? Then why do they pay?

I'm assuming for the privilege of fast forwarding them, but I'm not sure, it's probably the biggest reason I can't feel any affinity for the platform at all. I'm happy to chip in for the service like i do with Youtube Premium, but come on. They're not short ads either, and I think most of them are put in place by Joe Rogan himself because they're often him going on for 2-3 minutes.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I subscribe to Spotify but I dropped Rogan when he left. I have all my other podcasts in one app, listening history and all. Now I have to drop that because Spotify want to play monopoly? S** that.

Scratching my head what "S**" means

I assume "Sod", used in more British influenced cultures. Short for sodomy/sodomize. Usually a stand in for "F**" but a bit more cavalier/dismissive than angry.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

I think he's generally a good interviewer, and I like that he invites people from all sides of the spectrum, if anything, it helps me challenging my own ideas. Also, as a non-american, I feel this is entertaining and give me a glimpse of American culture. That being said, I've lost interested mostly because his guests have been less interesting (lately, mostly his comedian/fighter friends). BTW, anyone has good podca…

You might check out Koncrete although there's not as much content.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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> Everyone who is eligible and medically able needs to get vaccinated. I'm getting super tired of all this garbage; the US has had the vaccine supply and capability to be out of the pandemic by now That's a rather polarized position... what facts or experienced led you to this conclusion you stated? Specifically "the unvaccinated are screwing over the rest of us who are doing the right thing" .

> That's a rather polarized position... what facts or experienced led you to this conclusion you stated? Specifically "the unvaccinated are screwing over the rest of us who are doing the right thing".

The fact that the unvaccinated are taking up all of the hospital beds in certain areas of the country..?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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I noticed a similar trend with Howard Stern and others once signing on with SiriusXM.

My unsubstantiated take: audio has to be ubiquitous to work. It’s somehow more commoditized than video or other mediums.

If it’s a radio show / podcast, you already have your “player” of choice (AM/FM radio, or a particular mobile app) and you expect the audio to work like tuning a radio station to your syndicated show, or putting in a CD, and the player just plays it.

For some reason with video streaming, we equate services like Netflix with TV networks, so exclusivity is ok.

But audio apps and services don’t feel like different stations or CDs, they feel like different mediums entirely. So while Netflix is to Hulu as NBC is to HGTV, Spotify is to Apple Music as CDs are to MiniDisc.

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