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Post by spikej »

leavenotracks wrote: post #82

So true, so sad. These days, when even a few hurdles of crap present themselves, I often just leave. I don’t care what the site has to say or sell me. Whenever I come across a site that just displays content immediately, it fills me with joy. Usually it’s some obscure personal or academic site, but for a moment I feel like I’ve found a gem in the desert and I browse happily for a while…then I promptly add to a list o…

Sometimes you need the content and for that I use browser reader mode or if the content is really good, subscribe via rss. If they don't have rss, use a service to build one for the site

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Post by rsanek »

rambambram wrote: post #253
coldpie wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea how anyone browses the web without NoScript.

I used NoScript heavily for years. No ads on Youtube all that time. A couple of months ago something went wrong and I started seeing ads again (wow, that was literally a headache for me). No matter how I configured No Script, I still wasn't able to get rid of the ads. After trying uBlock - because a lot of people here recommended it - it works fine again.

YouTube Premium is $12/month. If we don't pay for content, the only stuff that will be left is crap.

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Post by Breza »

jb_s wrote: post #229
handrous wrote: post #10

This is less-bad than the real thing. [EDIT] I think I figured out the main difference: this lets me imagine that more than 10% of the "content" isn't also SEO garbage, and has actual value. [EDIT AGAIN] What it really needs is a giant sticky header that hides when scrolling down but pops up the second you scroll up at all , obscuring all the stuff you were scrolling up to see.

In real life, the news article is actually a PR release written entirely by a PR company and fed to some low-level staffer (because actual journalism is expensive and nobody can even tell that this is happening)

If you're interested in this topic, I suggest the short book Ghosting The News.

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Post by Breza »

heroprotagonist wrote: post #102
TeMPOraL wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you had offered me a rating pop-up, you would have been the first one I ever use (and gave 5 stars to). I've recently started to. For example, just last week, my telco's app (that I use because it's the least-hassle way to pay my phone/Internet bills) got 2 stars on Google Play Store, with a comment explaining that the app is fine, except slowish, and constantly nags about rating it on the Play Store.

I usually get the "Bad? Rate on our own feedback page" "Good? Rate on the store" scam.

One popular service took this to its logical extreme. They sent me an email with five different star options to click to rate them. Stars 1-4 took me to a private page to offer feedback about what I didn't like about the service. The 5th star took me to their TrustPilot page. I complained to TrustPilot since that's against their TOS. Not sure if anything came of it.

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Post by Breza »

rchaud wrote: post #186
dredmorbius wrote: post #174

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There are two of those (or at least, representations), for Twitter and Facebook. Could use another few dozen, just for luck. (A few years ago I started collecting screenshots of link litter. I think the max was about a dozen links, though most sites seem to keep it to 3--5.)

There are old plugins (that are still on a lot of sites) with buttons for Tumblr, StumbleUpon, Digg(!) and other dead networks.

I hadn't seen a reference to StumbleUpon in a long time. That brings me back. In college, I could spend an unlimited amount of time clicking the "Stumble" button. I finally kicked my habit by giving it up for Lent.

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Post by Breza »

pjerem wrote: post #49
eveningsteps wrote: post #17

Very bitter and to the point. I regularly wonder, do the people who want features like these installed — feedback form, "support chat" windows of various degrees of fakeness, subscription offer popups jumping in your face, and other absolutely baffling obstacles — really use their own web sites? Have they ever had to?

As someone who used to work for one of those companies selling a « support chat » platform, no, they don’t. The marketing and sales departments never targeted the editorial/dev team of a website/company but directly the sales department or an upper management department of the potential new customer. Chances are that the developers of those websites have to suffer those bullshit integrations as much as you do. And th…

I tried using one of those homepage chat features for a prospective vendor exactly once. I asked "Does your platform support ?" Turns out the person on the other end of the chat had nothing to do with the company and all they could do was collect my email address/phone number and file a ticket for the company to answer. Um... no thanks.

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Post by Breza »

arp242 wrote: post #183
krono wrote: post #27

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A website is a tool, a means to an end. The purpose of chat popups or feedback forms is to further a business goal, not to increase the website's usability.

I had a support chat on my business website for a long time; the "business goal" I wanted to further was to make it very easy for people to talk to me, ask questions, etc. I helped out a lot of people with very short turnaround times. I removed it mostly because it takes a lot of effort to maintain a good level of responsiveness on these kind of things unless you have a dedicated support team. Some of these support c…

I like companies that have a "Support" button that leads to a page that offers live chat. Having a chat box on the home page feels gimmicky to me.

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Post by Breza »

nabakin wrote: post #237

Did some digging and found the guy who made this. Looks like he was a frontend engineer at Baidu! Would be neat to have some good Chinese software engineers on here. If you guys want to check out his content, maybe give him a review for this website, here's what I've found: https://juejin.cn/user/254742427077869 https://www.producthunt.com/@evan_lee5/made https://www.cnblogs.com/hh54188/ https://www.zhihu.com/people/…

Great sleuthing!

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Post by Breza »

rchaud wrote: post #165
ub99 wrote: post #91

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The auto playing videos that are not related to the content of the article are, perhaps, the most baffling thing for me. I open an article and watch a video for a minute trying to understand the point - to only then realize that the video is unrelated. What’s the point of this? In most cases I close the website and add it to my blocklist.

The videos usually have unskippable ads.

And video ads carry much higher per-user prices then display ads. Especially if the whole ad finishes playing or you accidentally click on the ad when trying to close it.
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