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Another approach to this problem is the emacs aligned nyxt browser https://nyxt.atlas.engineer/

Nice, thanks for sharing! :D

My personal inspiration is Vim (as mentioned in the post), but we want to avoid the initial punishing feeling that learners feel when learning Vim. SigmaOS should still feel faster to use even from the first time you start using it.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've experienced the loss of input when I habitually hit escape to exit input mode and then x to delete text. (Normal on vim, does not carrier over the same with Vimium) This closes the tab, and on restore, the partial input is lost. Had this hit me more than once on Confluence

Good point. Currently though, if you "z" a page you've closed, it preserves your input. The system isn't perfect, but it prevents any fear of accidental closing.

Can't comment on your browser specifically, just that single key shortcuts which are normal input values is not a good idea. People are used to shortcuts with meta keys proceeding them. It's an established behavior and expectation beyond any one system or tool.

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Oh wow! You’ve built a social network and integrated it into the browser, I can’t wait to see the potential of surveillance capitalism to advertise everything I ever wanted to me with SigmaOS!

Haha, no intention to build a social network here. Just a way to send pages to people, targeted for work. And to be frank, SigmaOS does not and will never allow advertising to our users through the app.

Yes, but you could just sell the data to Facebook for a few billion per year. Make it free and do that, it’ll be much more successful…

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Congrats on the launch, the vision to create something different, to lead with Mac, to base it on WebKit, and to charge for it. Not many companies dare do that. My first advice will be to market this as a productivity tool and not a browser. This is much closer in nature to something like Sidekick or Workona vs something like Safari. Writing a browser from scratch (even if you have a good rendering engine for 'free')…

> Writing a browser from scratch (even if you have a good rendering engine for 'free') is unbelievably hard

Other than the rendering engine, what is so hard about writing a browser?

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""Oh… and we don’t sell your data."

I have conflicting feelings about this. Closed source codebase; but even if I trust you, what if you get acquired?

In fact, because the risks are unknown this seems even riskier than a regular browser (for privacy conscious people). What's being captured, how safely is it stored, can you read it, etc.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tab groups also exist in chrome, brave and edge (was behind a flag last time I checked), and presumably other chromium-based browsers too

And Firefox

I'm familiar with it as extensions, and not completely happy with any - lacking keyboard shortcuts, losing some of my tabs/groups, no synching across devices, multiple backgrounded tabs still running and killing performance and other issues.

Was it added to the core browser?

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