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One aspect of smoking that I don’t see talked about much is how it screws with your blood’s ability to transport oxygen effectively. This can drastically increase your risk of complications if you have to have surgery.

My friend is a plastic surgeon and refuses to operate on smokers unless they quit for six weeks to give their body enough time to generate functional blood cells. A few patients have lied to him, though. One had a breast augmentation and her nipples died and had to be removed due to insufficient oxygen supply to the area.

If you have to have surgery, it is best to stop smoking for at least a month and a half.

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The thing about smoking is that when you quit smoking you quit it every day. Imagine a light switch on the wall. You turn it off by quitting smoking and you can always go back at a desperate time for instance and turn it on. And some time later off again. Smoking your first cigarette implants that light switch on your mind and you can't make it go away. Since you know how it makes you feel good when the switch is on,…

Reading this, I'm happy it was different for me.

After smoking for years I became a weekend smoker; in weekends I'd go out and after some beers the urge to smoke because so much stronger. It took me a few years to give up smoking in weekends, what helped me the most is all my friends trying to give up smoking so no cigarettes were around anymore when we'd go to a bar.

Eventually most of my friends started smoking again, but I stayed off of them. Now I've not smoked for at least 7 years; and I never feel like there is a lightswitch in my mind. Even after some beers the smell of cigarettes disgust me.

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Ian Banks in his novel Complicity writes powerfully decrying smoking. Quoting from the novel. I take out another cigarette, light it and draw deeply. I gag again, coughing and hacking and feeling the whisky and the can of Export I had earlier slosh around inside me, almost coming up. My eyes are watering. What a stupid drug, what a completely useless fucking drug; no real hit after the first drag, highly addictive an…

Off topic fun fact: that novel is by Iain Banks, not Iain M Banks. He only uses the "M" for his Science Fiction novels.

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The thing about smoking is that when you quit smoking you quit it every day. Imagine a light switch on the wall. You turn it off by quitting smoking and you can always go back at a desperate time for instance and turn it on. And some time later off again. Smoking your first cigarette implants that light switch on your mind and you can't make it go away. Since you know how it makes you feel good when the switch is on,…

I agree that it's likely not a universal experience, but I relate to this so much. I just love smoking, and if we had a way to make it safe I'd be smoking every day. I still miss it a long time after I quit, particularly when the occasion would be perfect for a cigarette. I'm pretty sure that clinical depression is associated somewhat with the hold smoking has/d on me; getting better mentally made it much easier to not smoke.

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As a small kid, I think I was fascinated by other people smoking. I mean come on: there's a gleaming fire stick coming out of your mouth!!

But also, even as a tiny boy with a single-digit age, I was wondering why anybody would voluntarily pick up a habit that everyone knows raises your chances to get cancer? I liked the idea of being "cool" (which to me was the only real "pro" point of smoking), but when compared to a terminal illness, there really never was any temptation for me.

In thinking back about how times have changed since those days, what I find even more interesting though is that smoking was all around you _all the time_. People smoked, you didn't even think about it twice. Inside restaurants where you ate, inside cars when you were given a ride, everywhere.

I remember going to clubs when I was a young man, and that feeling of waking up the next morning with you ears screaming and your clothes, your pillow, your hair, everything smelling of cold smoke. Disgusting.

Coming to think of it, I wonder why I wouldn't want to pick up smoking out of fear of getting cancer but obviously didn't mind ruining my hearing by spending hours each weekend in unreasonably loud clubs. I mean, I certainly found it perverted that in that environment, when you were talking to someone, you were literally screaming into their ear (just think about that...) but I kept going there every weekend.

I suppose in the end, I did it because I wanted to belong. Which, in turn, I'm sure is one of the major reason for people to pick up smoking...

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I agree. I quit smoking back in 2016 and I don’t think of myself as a smoker at all anymore. I sometimes have to remind myself I used to smoke.

Why do people start smoking? Surely they know it's addictive, expensive, and bad for you

Depression in my case. I started smoking before high school as something to fill the void, only realizing much later that I've been severely depressed for a long time. (SSRIs are an amazing tool in my case FWIW)

Once you get used to it, it's an amazing social tool -- making new friends/acquaintances becomes a piece of cake. I travelled a lot for work and, as a smoker, I would instantly integrate with the other smokers. It's just something fun that leads to pursuing other social activities together. I've seen ADHD mentioned in this thread and that makes sense, the habit as "something to do" is a powerful grip on top of the chemical addiction.

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I don’t see the appeal of chain smoking the first cigarette is nice but subsequent cigarettes does nothing for me.

One cigarette a day is about how much I can do and actually cognitively recognize the effects.

That is not to say that some part of me does not want to smoke more than one. Cause there is such a part of me. But I as a verbal entity can not justify it in any way. It just does nothing. In fact it makes me feel worse.

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I quit smoking, and it was very very hard. I don't agree with you that the addiction, need and nicotine + other triggers will remain with me until the end of time. Deprogramming is part of the process of quitting to smoke. I do now never want to smoke. It is not attractive to me as a way to relax or focus. I can stand in a tobacco section of an airport taxfree shop holding a 5 cartons in my hands with absolutely no d…

+1. I quit smoking a little over a decade ago, gradually, by winnowing myself down cigarette-by-cigarette. If I smoked six cigarettes a day, for the next two weeks I'd smoke five; by the end of two weeks I'd stop feeling the urge for a sixth. Then I'd move down to four, etc etc, until finally I was down to two and just stopped entirely. For the first year after stopping regularly smoking, I still felt the urge when d…

Thanks for this. It's important that smokers yet to quit hear this message. Quitting is not impossible and it won't consume the rest of your life.

I gave up after 20 years of pretty much constant smoking. I will cave and have one with a friend who still smokes while drinking once in a while. Not perfect but better than smoking a pack a day.

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Nicotine was natural cure for ADHD at the time when there was no such diagnosis.

I am not kidding: my IQ raised at least 20 points when I started smoking at 16. I was suddenly the very best in mathematics (from barely acceptable level) and was able to concentrate in other studies too.

Unfortunately there was only two years left in school, so I was not able to fill the gaps to gain top marks at everything. Should have started smoking earlier.

I stopped smoking when there was no need to accomplish anything at age 40. It just happened quite effortlessly. I had all the monies I will ever need, and there was not too many opportunities available careerwise.

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> don't even get me started on the "it's harder than quitting heroin" nonsense) Out of curiosity: did you try both to know that for fact?

No, but if that was all there was to heroin I don't think we'd be seeing people destroying their families and literally throwing their lives away for it. Quitting smoking was a few weeks of feeling a bit shitty followed by a few months of constant cravings followed by almost forgetting you ever smoked.

Ah, I see. I was thinking more about the neurological side, which seems to suggest that similar mechanisms apply in addiction and withdrawal between nicotine, heroin and cocaine. (see for example [1])

As far as sociological consequences go, there's of course no comparison for various reasons. I don't know the role withdrawal plays, though, which is why it would interesting to get some first hand account.

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18640919/

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