I'm curious how it will perform off road. No need for a locking diff anymore if it has 1 motor per wheel.
it's one motor per pair of axles.
I wonder if they're going to provide diff locks for each axel.
2022 Ford F-150 Lightning
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fuel efficiency standards killed the small truck. In the turn of the century EV era, Ford had an electric Ranger which was built on the much smaller (at the time) Ranger platform. But you can't make an ICE small truck that meets the 200x updated CAFE standards, so the small trucks either disapeared (S10) or got bigger (toyota small trucks), or got bigger then disappeared and later reappeared still big (Ranger). An EV…
I've owned and driven a handful of trucks. Ranger sized trucks feel the least useful. Can't tow much. Can't haul much. Can't get into muck. Can't hold many people. Aerodynamics of a brick. An electric F150 is compelling. We just upgraded to a new one because we need the tow capacity and the F150 beat out the F250s we were looking at. It's a great size and checks all the boxes.
Small trucks may be the least useful, but they often provide(d) the right amount of utility. Lots of truck owners never go off the pavement and never tow, but make good use of the bed. With a 4-cylinder engine, fuel efficiency was not terrible, but it's a lot easier to put a pinball machine in the back of a truck than the back of a Honda Accord.
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#313There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
In my view it appears more to me that some Americans are reluctant to give up their world view on why they need to drive bigger, larger automobiles than using environmentally better smaller cars.
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
It needn't have been this tall. With the internal combustion engine out, Ford could have designed a lower, more curved, less deadly front end. Instead, they kept the high nose and used the space as a trunk. After all, injuring fewer pedestrians sells no cars. Indeed, the market prefers an enormous, deliberately threatening-looking chariot that makes you feel big and virile. Ford are behind this game in that they have…
> an enormous, deliberately threatening-looking chariot that makes you feel big and virile Most people with a truck are just trying to get their job done. They aren’t trying to look or feel anything.
I bet that the people criticizing trucks for being high off the ground has never driven a truck through a jobsite or a non-paved road.
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#315I hope the ability to use your EV battery to backup your house power becomes an expected capability in the future. Glad Ford included it. Too bad Tesla backed away from it, i’m guessing due to their powerwall business.
I'm interested to see if this leads to people living in places without power and using their truck as the sole source of electricity.
If you have a small cabin with no a/c, wood heat, and a propane stove - your house is going to use hardly any power compared to your truck. It would barely make a difference.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the gas F-150 sales are crew cab models, so it makes sense not to target that relatively small niche. The long-bed was popular back when people owned a truck as an extra vehicle/work vehicle only , now many use their truck as their main vehicle and have need of carrying others. If you look at the creature comforts of older bench seat trucks (bare-bones) and the trucks sold today, a truck today will have every…
The supercab F150 has serviceable back seats. There is no need to gimp the bed with an oversized crew cab.
My selection of vehicles agrees with you but friends who are new parents were shocked to see that child seats don’t fit in the back of Tacoma or I presume f150 supercab
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#317There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
> It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. When a vehicle is driving in front of my house with a grill that's a foot higher than my oldest child... yeah, I don't much like those aesthetics. And it has nothing to do with "moving stuff". The UPS delivery vans that are actually built to, ya know, move stuff, have lower grills and way safer sight lines.
As someone who used to work at a nursery that sold a lot of mulch, sod, etc, there are a lot of things that a typical single family homeowner would want that you absolutely wouldn’t want to transport in an SUV or minivan (which is all that is really worth talking about because pretty much no individual owns the type of delivery vehicle you’re talking about, which are meant for transporting packages anyways).
People would have me load this stuff for them into SUVs of course, and we would do our best to line them with plastic first, but it still made an awful mess everywhere.
And that’s not even getting into towing, there are common things having a truck bed is just better for.
As for the tallness, you can partly blame EPA regulations for that as it’s more cost effective for manufacturers to make trucks taller and wider than more fuel efficient. That’s the #1 reason why the small truck market declined and why smaller trucks got bigger
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#318Its battery can POWER YOUR HOUSE for up to a week. The Atlantic has a great article about it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2021/05/f-150...
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#319There’s a lot of stereotyping of truck owners going on in this thread which is kind of funny given how pro-EV HN normally is. It’s like the aesthetics of a pickup truck is offensive to some people. Kind of bizarre and not something I’m used to seeing but I guess I live in Ohio so that probably has something to do with it. A lot of people just want to move stuff, they don’t want to like…burn your house down while wear…
Story from when we moved to Montana 20 years ago:
We buy a freezer at Costco. Checking out, we ask for details on delivery. Costco employee says "Oh, we don't deliver". We had been used to Costco in CA which at the time would deliver large items.
I ask "Well, how do people get big things like freezers home".
Costco person says "Easy, just put it in your pickup, we'll help you load".
"Hmm...we don't own a pickup".
Costco employee looks somewhat confused.
Then says "Easy, just get your neighbor's pickup".
The next week we bought a pickup.
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#320This will not save the planet. We need to consume less, and walk/bike/take transit more. Fine, this may not be for you, but at least don't insist on a the rest of subsidizing you (untaxed climate externality).