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Normal people getting married would pay a premium for someone who appeared on tv. Paying netflix would be a smart business opportunity.
Your photos might appear on this Netflix show, which doesn't mean that you/your brand will do so. Or it might appear in the closing credits that are usually skipped.
She really liked to volunteer and we received free tickets for said event and definitely enjoyed it.
She added the project to her CV, but unfortunately it had zero impact on her career - no paid project was ever generated out of it.
She learned about the why in several job interviews:
- the design tasks were "below the line" work, applying an already developed corporate design to various event brochures like invitations or menues.
- she wasn't the only volunteer for this event. Every year it recruited dozens of musicians, hairdressers, actors, designers to work pro bono for the good cause. The hiring bar wasn't very high - everybody in the "scene" knew this which devaluated the reference.
I do see some parallels to the Netflix show - if they ask photographers to work for free, they will surely ask hairdressers, caterers etc as well. Creative power of those volunteers will likely be 0.
The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…
We ought to establish norms that discredit this kind of nonsense. Those of us who could afford to take on this kind of unpaid work for exposure ought to object sternly and without any particular regard for professional decorum (just like the author) when these sort of offers come by, because the other side has already thrown all of that out. Always treat an "offer" for work without pay like the insult it is.
I feel like it should be noted in the title that this is the show's production company "Kinetic Content" making this request. They should name the folks actually making the request. Naming Netflix misses the people actually making the request to work for free here.
Naming the production company doesn't get the outrage and eyeballs that Netflix does. Which if you want to get this to stop, Netflix as the studio, could put in a call and get this changed. It all depends on how bad the press gets before important people are on the phone.
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Some internships go higher, but those tend to be in the trading/quant software of things. (see https://www.levels.fyi/internships/ )
Respectfully, what is the value of pointing outliers at the top end of the intern of scale?
As a computer science student, us students idealize those internships because the benefits and longer hours means more money to pay off student loans.
Ironically coming from I am sure many people who will give up their time and energy helping established companies by offering free advice and filling out surveys (without pay) to help them make more money.
We ought to establish norms that discredit this kind of nonsense. Those of us who could afford to take on this kind of unpaid work for exposure ought to object sternly and without any particular regard for professional decorum (just like the author) when these sort of offers come by, because the other side has already thrown all of that out. Always treat an "offer" for work without pay like the insult it is.
Who is the 'we' in that statement? You think this free market thing means get the government involved to prevent some kind of exploitation?
> you think this free market thing means get the government involved to prevent some kind of exploitation?
Can't parse that.
The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…
> I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. Literally _everyone_ who says this doesn't understand what an unpaid internship is, including you. An unpaid intern is essentially an entry-level newhire who never leaves the onboarding and training phase. (Unless they are subsequently hired.) They are there to learn something about the job, the company, and the people…
This looks like a massive conflation of “is” and “is supposed to be.” I’m pretty sure tons of unpaid interns are either doing real work for the company or menial tasks that would otherwise be compensated (like getting coffee for people). The latter is a constantly-recurring plot element in depictions of modern workplaces.
You later claim that these cases are illegal. Even if that’s the case, it’s pretty clear that: A) this is ubiquitous, B) interns generally don’t have any recourse other than just not doing the internship, and C) people in this conversation aren’t actually confused about what internships are.