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Is it me or is drum and bass entirely missing from that site? Not sure you can have a real history tree of electronic music that misses it out.

No, it's a major branch of the tree near the top.

I'm a big DNB fan but I don't recognise any of the terms at the top tbh. Ghetto Tech and "Moombahton" aren't words that ever crossed my radar. I definitely don't see the words "drum and bass" anywhere there, which is a pity.

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Thanks for bringing this. This article basically looks at what beatports has to propose but it just totally forgets so many things that it's not even funny. What about "pop corn" too ?

I don't think popcorn is part of it to be honest. It's some adjacent siderail of groups like Mannheim Steamroller or BBC Radiophonic (eg Delia Derbyshire/Dr Who theme) or for that matter, video game music. Check out the "Soothing Sounds for Baby" album by Raymond Scott (1962) for an early example of this. To put Popcorn in comparison to what would be on the techno track at that time, look at Hugo Montenegro's Moog al…

yeah, now that you put some context around it, I understand I was a bit off. Thx :-)

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> Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.

> GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in…

Ah yes.

Telling americans to shut up about race already == "reactionary talking point"

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I love techno / house music. I’ve been unable to shake it since I caught the bug many many years ago in Kenya. It came as a pleasant surprise and shock to meet Carl Craig at thanksgiving some years back. My wife neglected to mention he was her cousin — real Detroit House music royalty. They understand he’s big somehow but all that is lost because techno and house are not considered “American” or “black” music for tha…

That’s so cool, did you see him in Kenya? Or how does Kenya fit in this story?

Saw him in the US, live here now.

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Yeahh that’s an insane track. Spiraling arpeggios into infinite, like you said. Yeah that set is crazy. New track Cylinder into the crazy unreleased 303 one is madness. How old is too old? I’ve had a reprieve because of covid and I wonder when I go back if I’ll like it as much as I did in 2019. I’ve def matured in reducing excesses... And I think I’m less of a chin scratching techno elitist. What spots or events are…

I’m 36... still enjoy late nights but find it messes up my sleep for days after even if I am fairly sensible with alcohol etc., so I’m more selective about when I go out - has to be worthwhile! Day parties I’m down for (tho they have a way of turning into night parties lol) In London, good venues are Corsica Studios, Pickle Factory, The Cause, Fold... all pretty low key and underground. There’s good stuff in other ci…

Hah nothing like a good all day event that just blends into the night. Or next level, a night that blends into the morning. But so true about the sleep. Guess it's good because it makes you only go all in for the really special ones.

Good to know, might have to try and hit this summer during a euro-jaunt if they're open. Only thing I've seen so far is Dimensions Festival in croatia. Looks decent, although a bit commercial.

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I’m 36... still enjoy late nights but find it messes up my sleep for days after even if I am fairly sensible with alcohol etc., so I’m more selective about when I go out - has to be worthwhile! Day parties I’m down for (tho they have a way of turning into night parties lol) In London, good venues are Corsica Studios, Pickle Factory, The Cause, Fold... all pretty low key and underground. There’s good stuff in other ci…

Get yourself over to the continent. If you start partying at 4am Sun morning you can finish at 10pm Sun night and be fresh Monday.

Hah savage Sven. To keep it going that long you need a cool crowd and an interesting setup imo... otherwise it's just moreso an "unnaturally" fueled marathon.

I've only done a true marathon (50+ hours without rest) one time in my life in Detroit. No doubt it aged me substantially lol.

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If you want to see quite the videos check these out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV8_eUJ6C1w [ Acid Mix Detroit Chicago - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz2wInkVkRU [ Techno Jam - New Dance Show 1989 ] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aUAqboAvQM [ City of Techno (Detroit) - New Dance Show 1991 ] Great examples of the racial diversity in the early scene in Detroit. I think this was some publ…

Yes, LATAM has the wildest contemporary techno scene after Europe. The US had next to no techno scene pre-pandemic, a party or two in NY or LA each weekend was it, now its dead.

Are you sure? NY would have plenty of parties, like 20-30 on a popping weekend night. Full range.

I know Colombia is really into it. I went to pretty solid parties in Brazil, at Fabriketa in Sao paulo. Felt fairly similar to the NY scene.

NY would have the big events for the "cool" crowd, big showcases like afterlife and stuff at the Mirage. Then smaller clubs like Nowadays, where you could get an 8 hour Wata Igarashi set etc. Underground one-offs like The Bunker.

Plus it seemed like a lot of Europe's cities have their scene and they focus more on that. Of course Berlin is high quality but like Copenhagen focuses on schacke and stuff. Whereas NY you can get a taste of everything in a year.

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> it's roots took place ... from the black community > origins from the black community gotta give credit to the engineers who pioneered electronic music synthesis, like Robert Moog, or the Japanese who created Korg synthesizers in the article. Influences for any technology, project, art, etc come from a large web of sources. Racial gatekeeping and attribution is close-minded. Let the people enjoy techno without guil…

OP didn’t insinuate people should feel guilty. Those feelings you are having are of your own causing and interpretation. He was just stating facts

oh i don't feel any guilt at all. I was interpreting OPs motive for changing their behavior, and why they felt the need to communicate it as if it were a noble act.

> its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support

I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.

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> This was the era when in the US Eminem had lines like "nobody listens to techno" That was a diss line about Moby, a "techno" artist who achieved mainstream US popularity around that time. Eminem wasn't trying to accurately depict the state of electronic music in the US, he was being salty.

I know, but precisely : referring to Moby as "techno" says everything on how clued up about electronic music the average US listener or artist was at the time :)

Moby may have ended up with chart success and his tracks on car adverts, but he most did produce plenty of music in the same realm as the artists in the article. Maybe a bit more stompy and with a more varied structure than the clinical X-101 stuff, but it would be unfair to not call it techno. Whether or not Eminem was aware of his early work I couldn't say.

- 1994 Horses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ice5Nw6ltfY

- 1995 Desperate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdu9UwXqGc

- 1992 Drop a Beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA

- 1991 UHF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TjeBcA1cI

- 1991 Voodoo Child (Poor in New York Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA

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I felt the same, it was super nice to open HN and see so many comments on a techno thread. Not sure if a Discord would be helpful as might need a critical mass to not get abandoned... But I would love to have a place with people from HN to chat techno, feel that could take me to music discussions I haven't had yet, the crowd here is quite interesting. From my personal background, I've always liked dance music, got mo…

There's a few discord communities already if you're interested in joining an established group: Hypnus server slants to deep/hypnotic same as their label, also has a private area accessible via sub to label boss Michel's Patreon https://discord.gg/w2G3RcNJ A Thousand Details hosts Collective Details, which is a techno community and also a collective net label. We (I produce & do admin for the label) have four release…

I already was a member of a couple of them so thank you very much for sharing, will check out the ones I wasn't aware of :)
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