Does this mean they have shifted their focus to cheating on battery capacity?
You get cheated every day by big corps and don't complain do you?
I think I'm complaining in my own way right now :)
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#312VW is really pushing EVs. In my neighborhood in Germany there are already many, many ID.3 and ID.4. It's a city near Wolfsburg (VW HQ), that might influence that as well.
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#313I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…
> they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later found to be doing I find the same happens with performance enhancing drugs in sports. Everyone in the game knows that everyone is doing it. But someone gets caught, and people go full offense on them as though they're pure evil. Ben Johnson and later Lance Armstrong come to mind.
Lance Armstrong deserved it though.
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#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Most other manufacturers were/are cheating as well. I've owned a few recent VWs and have found they're fine vehicles. The current gen Tiguan was underpowered, but my MK7 GTI and MK7.5 Golf R are amazing cars. I have a feeling I'll be driving the R for a long time.
I had a MK6 GTI and I loved it. Once VW has worked the kinks out of their electric platform I'll definitely take a look at them again.
I had a Corrado, which was sold to make room for a minivan. Thankfully the minivan days are behind me and now I have a used Nissan Leaf.
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#315Got a Subaru Outback 10 days ago. After I saw this, I told my wife that will probably be the last vehicle we buy that is not at least a plug-in hybrid. We had also test-driven a Toyota Avalon Hybrid, but the Subaru was a much better value and had more vertical trunk space, AWD, and every safety/convenience feature we could imagine getting (and some we weren't even aware of) without buying a $70k+ Lexus/BMW/Mercedes.…
I really wish Subaru made plug-in hybrids
I assume the lack of hybrids and pure electrics is because Subaru is tiny, as far as auto manufacturers go.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/249375/us-market-share-o...
It’s a lot of R&D to make a hybrid, and the non-Prius sales have been…less than stellar. Now, Subaru has an environmental outdoorsy image, so they could probably market better than most, but it’s probably awfully expensive for them. And in the short term, they are selling everything they can make, and they might not want to mess with the production lines that much.
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#316I previously owned a VW, but swore on my life that I'd never buy another one after the emissions cheating scandal. There are plenty of reasons why a VW likely wont be my next choice, but I'm softening my stance a bit. What they did was absolutely reprehensible, but I later learned that the more accurate story is that they bore the brunt of media attention for something that nearly every auto manufacturer was later fo…
I'm confused. My understanding is that all cars showed discrepancies between in-lab and on-road tests, due to overoptimizing the ECU for lab conditions.
However, AFAIU, only VW had an "if in_lab: reduce_polution()" line in their ECU. It could be that the "final result" was the same, but the intentionality behind it was waaay stronger for VW.
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#317Earlier quoted context omitted.
Volkswagen is not an English word though
It has been adopted to a degree. Just like you don't need to say Paris as "Pari" in an imitation of the French pronunciation (which would probably sound rather affected and twee in English if you did) Anyway, let's hope they make reliable electric vehicles (as their combustion engine cars have traditionally been) otherwise people may render it as Faultswagen
I don't think Volkswagen is reliable (nor any German car), at least compared to Japanese cars.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
Americans are pronouncing it perfectly correctly as most of us speak English and not German.
Does it bother you when Germans say "zis"? German has no "th" sound, so "zis" is what they start with before they practice. It's similarly grating to Germans to hear their language mispronounced by others. And yet, English has an "f" sound. German has an extremely consistent spelling and essentially all "v"s are pronounced as "f". We share (the latin) alphabet, and English has absolutely no authority, given how incon…
Accent is an inevitable part of second language speakers. I've lived in US most of my life, but English is not my native language and I started learning it around the age of 5 and at the age of 25 after living here more than 20 years, I still have a distinct accent I can't get rid of. It's just the way things are, human brain seems to learn pronunciation differently when we're a child.
This same goes for English speakers too. I know how Volkswagen is supposed to be pronounced (I know some German) but that's not the way English speakers would say it.
I don't think there is anything to be bothered by any of this. This just adds to our diversity.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish Subaru didn't go all-in on touch for critical controls like climate and radio. It may be the #1 reason I don't look to them for my next vehicle.
I used to say I would never buy a phone without a physical keyboard. My last phone with a physical keyboard was the original Moto Droid, which I lost in 2012.
Understood, but I think the ability to adjust things tactile is more important in a driving scenario. Also, The UI lag on some of these infotainment systems feels like a 2010 iphone running iOS 13.
If only one could update the processor in their infotainment the way one does a phone, instead of having to buy a new car.
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According to Wikipedia ratings under WLTP are much lower than under NEDC so your comment doesn't seem to make a ton of sense to me. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldwide_Harmonised_Light_Veh...
Remember how i said "unrealistic" and not "lower"? WLTP is a rather unrealistic way to determine fuel consumption or energy usage on cars. If you look at sites which collect fuel usage for cars you often times see fuel usages considerably higher than what WLTP defines. Especially if it's a PHEV since WLTP expects a full battery all the time. Under 2L/100km for a 2 ton SUV is not realistic by any stretch of the imagin…
> Especially if it's a PHEV since WLTP expects a full battery all the time. Under 2L/100km for a 2 ton SUV is not realistic by any stretch of the imagination. The numbers on https://www.spritmonitor.de/ for example seem to allign more with EPA in my experience.
There's a question as to what you're trying to model; if you're looking at daily usage then relatively short distances from fully charged are probably relatively representative of a lot of usage (the mean and median distances driven on a daily basis are relatively short distances!).
https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/0-All_manufactures/0... shows that data is somewhat all over the place v. manufacturer data, with some being close and others very far away from it.
In reality, I suspect what would be useful is to have a further cycle based on a 100km journey largely on a motorway, as a long-distance extra-urban cycle?