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Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by krsdcbl »

lumenwrites wrote: post #288
i80and wrote: post #233

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Depends on what you're doing: any kind of 3D work requires a numpad to be effective, since that's typically where camera controls are bound in every workflow I've seen.

This only applies to Blender. No other 3D software that I know of requires numpad hotkeys. I've been using Maya/Houdini/zBrush for years, never touched the numpad, that feels too awkward. If numpad keybindings in these apps do exist - I never knew about them, never needed to, never will. (because left hand is on the keyboard, and right hand is on the mouse or stylus, and putting down the mouse to reach for a numpad i…

Same goes for Cinema4D, wouldn't know of any numpad shortcuts

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by tjoff »

SpaceNugget wrote: post #271
tjoff wrote: post #158

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Point still stands.

No it doesn't. USB Type-C is a connector shape, used by both USB and Thunderbolt. So people saying they want thunderbolt and you saying they should want USB Type-C doesn't make much sense. Imagine someone in 2001 saying they are disappointed with new computers being released without USB 2.0 (i.e. still using USB 1.1), and you replying that things should be based on Type-A. Both USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 used Type-A connect…

I think it was obvious beyond any reasonable doubt that I meant USB over USB-C.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by glsdfgkjsklfj »

Supporting system76, librem, etc was once about investing in support for linux....

Yet those companies provide zero contributions, rebadge open source projects, and just re-sell taiwanese white-label computers while going great lengths to hide that and fake innovation.

if pcpartpicker.com adds a single checkbox to their searchs: "[ ] support in mainline linux kernel", it would make more good to linux support than all those companies combined.

Also, barrel charger plugs? ugh.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by kitsunesoba »

ad404b8a372f2b9 wrote: post #290
gmac wrote: post #267

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Perhaps because you can buy a separate numpad if you want one, and then have the best of both worlds: both a numpad and a centered keyboard?

I don't want to have to assemble my laptop in parts. Why not the webcam and the mouse and the speakers while we're at it.

Assembly shouldn't be required (could be pre-configured from factory) but I don't see any reason why the top deck of a laptop couldn't be modular so the same model could support a more MacBook-like config with a centered keyboard + trackpad with no numpad and larger speakers OR an off-center keyboard and trackpad with numpad and smaller speakers.

Actually, thinking about it, it strikes me as slightly absurd that this isn't an option on at least a few mainstream laptops.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by dmos62 »

tristor wrote: post #275

I want to love this, but the keyboard seems horrible. I know I'm exceptionally picky when it comes to keyboards, I usually just take a 60% mechanical keyboard with me, but I've been able to adjust to using the (non-crappy years) Macbook Pro keyboard and the Thinkpad keyboards while traveling, and generally find them acceptable. This keyboard though has really bad legends, an inexplicable numpad, and it takes up too m…

> 60% mechanical keyboard

What's that?

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Post by acdha »

macksd wrote: post #206
Fergusonb wrote: post #86

I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD: I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web) The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firef…

Especially in a post-COVID world where home offices are more common and possibly with even less travel, I think battery life is quite overrated for many people. I have a Serval Workstation (i.e. high-power laptop) from System76 and absolutely love it. The battery doesn't last very long especially if I'm doing heavy-lifting on the GPU, but I very rarely go somewhere I can't plug in. I need to be able to fold up my "wo…

Battery life is a proxy for somethings you do care about: how often does the fan come on and when does thermal throttling impact performance notably? If you don't travel, a desktop will cost less, last longer, and do more than a laptop — in part because the system won't be throttling. I spent about 20 years being laptop-only and went back to a desktop recently after realizing that it'd literally been years since I'd had any significant amount of on-the-go work which I couldn't do on my phone.

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Post by michaelmrose »

eertami wrote: post #239
justaguy88 wrote: post #224

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> could just be my sight It is 1080p to 4k is such a large difference

Really? On a 13" display? I bet in a blind AB test at a normal viewing distance you wouldn't even be able to accurately tell me which is which.

I would bet money on you being wrong at 2-3 feet away

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Post by dmos62 »

mturilin wrote: post #220

I just can understand people creating non HiDPI displays in 2021. It’s just beyond me that someone is making laptops with display much worse than my 2012 MBP Retina.

I've no use for a hidpi display. I've a use for lower power usage though. If I don't care about power usage, I'll be using a desktop anyway. Plus the price is probably pretty different. I know decent external budget 4k monitors are non existant.

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Post by rattray »

black_puppydog wrote: post #306
rattray wrote: post #291

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This debate makes me wonder what it'd be like to have a keyboard layout in which the num pad is in the middle of the keyboard, such that on a qwerty keyboard Q-T, A-G, Z-V are on one side and Y-P, H-L, B-M on another, with the numbers in the middle (separated by a buffer space). I know this sounds crazy, but IME the worst part of keyboard ergonomics on mac laptops is that my hands are much closer together than my sho…

Get an mnt reform and build your own :D Or just invest the few bucks to go for an mvp: split 60% keyboard and a separate numpad simply stuck between the two splits. If you like it, build it properly. :D

I already use a separate keyboard for each hand when I'm at my desk (external magic keyboard for left hand, right hand on laptop, with the unused half of the external keyboard underneath my propped-up laptop). Works great!

I don't usually do a lot of numerical stuff so rarely need the number pad... it'd just be nice to have a wider laptop keyboard when I'm roaming about (though tbf I'm not sure I'd want a laptop that large...)

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Post by rattray »

black_puppydog wrote: post #309
dmos62 wrote: post #305

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Nice idea. Keyboard design is stuck in typewriter era and my shoulders and wrists could use an ergonomics upgrade. There's nice split keyboards, but the price is steep (~300 euros vs my current sub 10 euro keyboard).

I've been typing on a ~60eur let's split for the better part of a year now. Made myself some nice armrests out of scrps of locust. My more expensive keyboards don't hold a candle to it imo

By "scrps of locust" do you mean scraps of Robinia pseudoacacia (black locust) wood?
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