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Re: Based Cooking

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What is "Based cooking" ? Is it a pre-existing phrase with its own meaning, or it's just the name of the site? Is this a meme meaning of the word "based" that I am too old to be aware of?

I have the same issue (33 yrs old), and couldn't figure it out by doing a quick web search.

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Bad advice not only for beginners, but also for any dough recipe, because amounts often need to be exact for a dough to work properly. In this case, cooking really is a science experiment. Also, I do not like 'salt to taste', particularly for raw egg or raw meat mixtures. Just tell me the amount of salt, whynot?

My experience is the opposite. Most bread recipes for example are both incredibly tolerant of mistakes. Also — flour varies so much in capacity to absorb water and gluten content between brands that I'd say precision is very much illusory unless you are after industrial-style consistency. Small changes in how you handle doughs of different hydration, and changes in timing/temperature thereafter have a much bigger dif…

I agree entirely. I feel like this myth of "baking is science, cooking is art" got started and I don't really understand it.

100% reproducible results for both is definitely "science".

The processes that happen to make the flavors and textures and results you're looking for - absolutely "science".

Some very finicky food types require a lot more precision than others, so some (very small percentage of) recipes you absolutely do have to follow very strict recipes and procedures.

But the majority of stuff - baking or "cooking" - you can wing a lot and get great results. You just might not get exactly the results you thought you'd get.

In my experience in a house that doesn't have strict climate control (no humidity control, windows often open, inexact temperature control), intuition on yeast-based dough is actually really important. Two days in a row the same exact simple bread dough recipe can behave very differently due to factors like ambient temperature and humidity.

The trick is getting from a recipe cook to an intuitive cook. For me, I feel like that leap came primarily from a single book (and years of prior absorbed "Good Eats" knowledge):

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3931154-ratio Ratio: The Simple Codes Behind the Craft of Everyday Cooking by Michael Ruhlman

Highly recommended read.

Re: Based Cooking

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What is "Based cooking" ? Is it a pre-existing phrase with its own meaning, or it's just the name of the site? Is this a meme meaning of the word "based" that I am too old to be aware of?

Roughly "down to earth", the opposite of image-obsessed.

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On this subject, can an American please tell me what a spoonful is? There is a great video series on youtube, with his recipes online, but all measurements are spoonful: https://www.ethanchlebowski.com/cooking-techniques-recipes/p... Spoons can vary in size, so is it a tablespoon or a teaspoon? When dealing with spices you'll be adding 3 times the amount if you go with tablespoon interpretation so it'd be a pretty bi…

I assume that essentially means "to taste," you have the correct ratios, mix all the spices and add spice mixture slowly until dish tastes good. Do people normally measure spices? I never do. Ever. I assume the cook's lack of exact measuring (eyeballing) is why it says "spoonful", rather than "teaspoon."

> Do people normally measure spices?

For me, no, not anymore. Recipes serve as inspiration and I rarely do more than scan the ingredients list and then go off to make something (inspired).

It's taken me a lot longer to develop a great intuition of which herbs, spices, and ingredients combine to make a great flavor than it did to develop the intuition of how /much/ to use if I know what I'm using.

The problem here is the threeish kinds of cooks:

  - beginner
  - experienced recipe follower
  - experienced intuitive
I've been asked for "recipes" by people in camp #2 - and they don't know what to do with what I'm able to give them. Which is fair - my recipes are just a list of general ingredients, spices, and a method of cooking in my head. "These vegetables (sauté), these meats (brown), combine, these spices ("enough", go heavy on this particular one), this preparation (slow simmer for hours, like a chili), this finish."

Camps #1 and #2 want exactly the same thing, they just need varying level of specificity. Both would strongly prefer you give them exact measurements.

My guess is #1/#2 is the bulk of people who cook.

The recipe cards that everyone's family seems to have as heirloom keepsakes - those are all more #2 with a dash of #3 ambiguity thrown in to throw off any people trying to copy grandma's old recipe.

The recipes swapped at potlucks and family dinners - same. There's usually a (simpler or more shortcuty than the person might want to admit) recipe buried under there.

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What is "Based cooking" ? Is it a pre-existing phrase with its own meaning, or it's just the name of the site? Is this a meme meaning of the word "based" that I am too old to be aware of?

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Re: Based Cooking

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What is "Based cooking" ? Is it a pre-existing phrase with its own meaning, or it's just the name of the site? Is this a meme meaning of the word "based" that I am too old to be aware of?

I'm not 100% sure this is what the author intends but 'based' has been used for quite a long time on imageboards as an adjective describing something that is unpopular or contentious but nonetheless correct.

> J.K. Rowling is actually better that Hemingway

> > based

From here it spread to other communities (largely non-mainstream political communities on both the left and right). Its strongest assiociation is still with 4chan (and by extension the alt-right) though.

Edit: I just noticed this is Luke Smith's project. He's an esoteric fascist with an embarrassing love of 4chan memes. So yeah, that's where it comes from.

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I wouldn’t read that much into it. Depending on the origin of the author it might be that not eating meat is just not common.

Nah, he's just an alt-right version of the unabomber: https://lukesmith.xyz/articles/vegan

You’ve made this exact comment more than once - you seem to have a pretty personal bone to pick with Luke, given that your assessment of “alt-right unabomber” is about as hilariously off the mark as it gets.

Re: Based Cooking

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What is "Based cooking" ? Is it a pre-existing phrase with its own meaning, or it's just the name of the site? Is this a meme meaning of the word "based" that I am too old to be aware of?

I'm wondering the same as a 31 year old, I've been cooking and reading about it since adulthood and have never come across that term.

Re: Based Cooking

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Some of these recipes seem decent if you're already somewhat experienced and have developed cook's intuition. Otherwise they're way too vague. For instance, the chicken parm recipe: - There should be a photo of how to slice the chicken breast. Saying "through their width" isn't good enough. I had to explain what "lengthwise" was once because my friend cut all the vegetables the exact opposite of it. - Pound with what…

On this subject, can an American please tell me what a spoonful is? There is a great video series on youtube, with his recipes online, but all measurements are spoonful: https://www.ethanchlebowski.com/cooking-techniques-recipes/p... Spoons can vary in size, so is it a tablespoon or a teaspoon? When dealing with spices you'll be adding 3 times the amount if you go with tablespoon interpretation so it'd be a pretty bi…

If it's spices, I don't even bother with a spoon. Just dump a bunch in until it looks good. Most recipes call for so small amounts of spices that you're not really going to taste it, so why bother putting it in at all?
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