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Re: I Still Use RSS

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I've mentioned this on HN before, one pattern I've noticed is a lot of sites tend to truncate their RSS feed so you have to click through to see the full article etc. This is mostly OK but kinda frustrating, as in the before-covid times I used to ride the London Underground a lot where no celluar signal is available in the tunnels - so my offline RSS reader would be useless. So I wrote a little web service accepts an…

Miniflux does something similar

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I've been a heavy user of RSS for a really long time. I can't imagine a world without it, and it frustrates me that it never took off with regular people in the way it has with those in the technical world.

Initially I just used NetNewsWire -- a beloved reader for the Mac that's had an amusing development life cycle -- but I moved to Google Reader and a variety of clients when that existed. When Google killed Reader, I moved to Feedbin for a back end, and found their web interface plenty good enough for me. On my phone and iPad, I use Reeder.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I've been a heavy user of RSS for a really long time. I can't imagine a world without it, and it frustrates me that it never took off with regular people in the way it has with those in the technical world. Initially I just used NetNewsWire -- a beloved reader for the Mac that's had an amusing development life cycle -- but I moved to Google Reader and a variety of clients when that existed. When Google killed Reader,…

I get the sense that you may not be old enough to remember when the majority of people who used the internet used RSS feeds to consume their news and information consumption. That all changed with mostly facebook and Zuckerberg's charge to have "Facebook replace the internet". We are now totally shifted from a distributed consumer driven information market to a centralized autocratic supplier system (it's not even a market, but rather just centralized propagation of regime approved narrative).

I totally agree with the subject author and likely you, but I would go even further, that RSS or a similar user controlled distributed source subscription model is the only way that humanity can regain control over its freedom of information. And time is clearly running out. Regardless of what people may think of the likes of Elon Musk, the clear move (regardless of why) to the privatization of the internet through his skynet, or was it skylink???, project will lead to the atrophy of what is at least theoretically still a public internet, even though corporations have essentially totally coöpted it.

Re: I Still Use RSS

#314

I think my digital life would be a mess without an RSS feed reader. Because of its existence I do not need to touch Twitter, Reddit, YouTube[1], or any Mastodon instance, for example, as I can just have the updates that interest me from these networks in the comfort of my Feedbin[2] feed. While Hacker News does not provide an interface that notifies you when someone replies to you, hnrss.org provides an RSS feed for…

> Hacker News does not provide an interface that notifies you when someone replies to you

This can't be an oversight, the feature is too obvious, too easy to implement. This has to be a deliberate choice.

Does anyone know why HN made this choice?

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I'm happily using Feedly ever since Google Reader got shut down. I genuinely would be missing out on a lot of content if people would stop providing RSS feeds, especially for blogs that only update very sporadically.

I pay for Feedly not because I'm interested in any of the Pro features, but because Google Reader taught me that you should pay for things you like so they will stick around.

Although your statement is generally true, I think the remaining flaw in that consideration is the subscription model. It makes you and your information source totally dependent on the whims of others. Sure, maybe they won't shut down, but maybe they will not refuse some insane buyout from a tech tyrant to capture the market and you and the information about you, if they aren't already selling that.

The general internet/application model of pre-fb is probably the only viable option going forward, where you pay or invest or buy into development projects like you would in one of those gofundme type things.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I think my digital life would be a mess without an RSS feed reader. Because of its existence I do not need to touch Twitter, Reddit, YouTube[1], or any Mastodon instance, for example, as I can just have the updates that interest me from these networks in the comfort of my Feedbin[2] feed. While Hacker News does not provide an interface that notifies you when someone replies to you, hnrss.org provides an RSS feed for…

> I think my digital life would be a mess without an RSS feed reader.

Then again, staying on top of everything is overrated.

For example, knowing every time someone responded to you on HN is most likely a net negative. They're likely to just be arguing with you. Better to navigate to your comment history on HN when you feel like arguing than getting notified on each reply.

This comment is a good example. You were just enjoying your Thursday and I found a bone to pick with your comment. Why would you want this pushed into your life instead of pulled into your life when you're in the mood to deal with it? ;)

You of course can open your RSS reader only when you're in the mood for it. But I think there's value in the disorganization of distractions. You forgot to check NYTimes or HN replies or whatever in 2 months? It's not like you missed anything important.

I found it nice to just have a list of links in a Notes.app file that I check every once in a while for leisure.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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RSS onboarding is a struggle for new users. RSS, unlike commercial products, lacks a "front page" to explain the benefits and how to get started. Two things that can help: 1. Have a prettified RSS feed that tells new users what it is, rather than showing raw XML. For example here's mine: http://interconnected.org/home/feed 2. (plug) Link to https://aboutfeeds.com which is a one-pager RSS explainer site, providing lin…

That's awesome. How did you do that?

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I've been a heavy user of RSS for a really long time. I can't imagine a world without it, and it frustrates me that it never took off with regular people in the way it has with those in the technical world. Initially I just used NetNewsWire -- a beloved reader for the Mac that's had an amusing development life cycle -- but I moved to Google Reader and a variety of clients when that existed. When Google killed Reader,…

I get the sense that you may not be old enough to remember when the majority of people who used the internet used RSS feeds to consume their news and information consumption. That all changed with mostly facebook and Zuckerberg's charge to have "Facebook replace the internet". We are now totally shifted from a distributed consumer driven information market to a centralized autocratic supplier system (it's not even a…

Starlink.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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I don't want to spam the project, but since you mention Pipes like that: I tried to bring it back with https://www.pipes.digital/ . Can't do everything the original could and some things it just does differently, but merging RSS feeds and filtering them is exactly the main thing I use it for myself.

Thanks for sharing this, awesome project. The feature set looks pretty comprehensive from the screenshots. Is there a way to export the created canvas from the editor? I’m imagining a workflow where people/teams create the RSS processing canvases and then share them using an export. Also is there a CLI tool?

Hey, thanks :) The project's web application is currently not separated enough into backend/frontend to forge a CLI tool from that backend. There is an export function, but it's meant as a data export for all the pipes (to not hold data hostage), not per canvas, and to my knowledge no one so far has tried to work with the JSON representation the site exports.

However, you can fork pipes in the site UI and then edit them like that. And if a team would share an account to manage a set of Pipes together there is nothing that would prevent that.

Re: I Still Use RSS

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RSS as branding - well, I've tried to sell people on it for years. I actually worked at an RSS aggregator startup for 7 years, so I spent a while pushing it. You say "RSS" to most people and their eyes glaze over. >The subscription process is simplicity itself You must've found some different sites than I have, because even sites that have a feed don't make it obvious how. For instance, check out Substack, ex: https:…

https://www.apple.com/rss/ Open this on an Apple or android phone. On iOS this will even prompt you to open the App Store to find a feed reader (#1 is still Feedly). RSS icons were ubiquitous like fb and Twitter icons a few years ago, and anyone could use them. It wasn’t a geek thing, it’s just a market that faded. I’ve never had the feed icon not work on a phone in the last 10 years or a typically installed browser…

Lol, my bad, you're right. It was wildly popular, random people on the street were talking about RSS, everyone in the general non-blogging populace was swapping their favorite feeds, it was amazing. That's probably why Google shut down Reader right at the height of that amazing, broad-based popularity and basically nobody talks about it anymore.
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