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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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The best answer to this tactic is, “Nice Dropbox you have there. Shame if OneDrive were to happen to it.” The O365 integration with OneDrive is so seamless relative to other options, employees won’t even complain after an initial learning curve. In fact, many will start subscribing to O365 on iOS etc. and start having access to the same content synced across Windows, MacOS, iOS, Xbox, etc. At this point, with employe…

This is an interesting take, and i agree with you. I myself have used dropbox for personal stuff, and onedrive with several of my previous employers for years now. For any person or business that i know who is all-in on microsoft products/services, i recommend to just adopt leveraging oneDrive, and life for them gets easier. (I didn't say better in other ways...but certainly easier.) In fact, oneDrive is good enough…

I have been happy with this OneDrive client on Ubuntu for the last year: https://github.com/abraunegg/onedrive/

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I was told a story about the Dropbox sales team a while back that swore me off using them. They contacted the company I worked at, that didn't have a business contract with Dropbox, offering a great deal and a meeting was quickly arranged. The meeting (which I only heard about secondhand from a good friend) quickly turned into a strong-arm operation. Dropbox had 'detected' that employees at our company were using Dro…

The best answer to this tactic is, “Nice Dropbox you have there. Shame if OneDrive were to happen to it.” The O365 integration with OneDrive is so seamless relative to other options, employees won’t even complain after an initial learning curve. In fact, many will start subscribing to O365 on iOS etc. and start having access to the same content synced across Windows, MacOS, iOS, Xbox, etc. At this point, with employe…

We use Onedrive at my work. It's a little annoying because OneDrive reads through your Word documents and tells you that you actually can't save that file here, because it has some external font or macro inside it. I like that Dropbox and Box don't look inside your files and I really hope Microsoft copies that feature soon.

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Your "time to digest" is Netflix's "fleeting window of opportunity to keep you engaged" or whatever businessy term describes that.

They aren't Facebook. They just need to keep me subscribed, not engaged. I bet someone has an engagement OKR anyway, though.

Hours of video watched per month is metric Netflix tries to optimize, because it predicts churn. If a customer is spending decreasing hours on Netflix and watching Disney instead, they are more likely to cancel.

Goodhart's law applies. If a customer is watching more Netflix because they are binging some fantastic new context, that’s great for Netflix. If the customer watching more because the app keeps auto playing something they didn’t ask for and gradually pisses them off, not so good. Netflix might have better ways of measuring customer satisfaction that can tell if these behaviors make the customer more satisfied overall.

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I think all creators should have a pirates donations box so pirated content doesn’t impact the creators that much.

Does watching hq torrents of content I have legal access to count? :) My 960 GPU in the htpc doesn't quite have the bit depth that Netflix wants, therefore it disables 4k entirely. Bought the GPU at the time as it was the first with hardware HECV, has zero issues playing back a 4k encoding by someone else..

Wait, can you not play SDR 4K on Netflix?

What happens if you play the first season of Stranger Things, which was produced in 4K but not in HDR?

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This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Really? Nowadays ive found it hard to get good 4k hdr downloads of things with seeders. Piracy seems to top out at 1080p at least it bittorrent land

A lot of it is probably caused by demographics - torrents are pretty popular in countries where 4k is not the norm and may not be accessible.

FWIW I have 20/10 vision (twice as sharp as "perfect normal") and have never seen the appeal of retina screens or 4k.

edit: Also the file sizes are vastly larger for 4k for an incremental benefit.

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Every single video app I have on my AppleTV: Netflix, Amazon, Criterion, even Apple’s own TV app, shrinks whatever you are watching down to a thumbnail just before the movie or show ends. I fucking hate it. Yes, I’m one of those weirdos who sits through to the end when the copyright rolls past and gets pissed off when the lights come on at a theater during the credits. It is incredibly disrespectful to the film. This…

Thanks for staying for the credits! I make credits for a living, so I’m biased, but you’re right that they serve a real artistic purpose, as a gentle transition from the dream world back to the real one. No one likes to be shaken awake and bombarded with a new dream — especially when they haven’t yet made sense of the last one.

This reminds me of AMC's Lost finale, where after the end of the show, AMC added a simple shot of a desert island with some lapping waves, just to give viewers thirty seconds to digest everything that had happened.

Of course, this confused the shit out of many viewers, who thought it was part of the show and tried to find meaning in it...

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Dear Dropbox, I'm a paying customer and if you make sharing my google contacts a requirement I will cease to be a paying customer. I don't care why you did it. I don't care how great it is. I don't care how much more whatever it makes my "experience". I use Dropbox for cold storage and offsite backup - there are other ready options to serve this use case.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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post #309

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This is a great example of why I still prefer torrenting films and TV shows as opposed to using my wife’s Netflix sub: the pirated media is better! Netflix and Hulu and competing with easier to use and more flexible pirated media, whether they like it or not. The consistency and flexibility of the VLC interface (or whatever media player you choose) is vastly better than whatever features a Netflix PM is trying to pus…

Really? Nowadays ive found it hard to get good 4k hdr downloads of things with seeders. Piracy seems to top out at 1080p at least it bittorrent land

Depends on where you're downloading. 4K isn't as prevalent but it's usually out there.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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* sigh * I would pay a lot of money for a service like the one Dropbox was in in its first few years. That is the service that I need now, not all this shiny crud. I've been a Dropbox user for 12+ years. I imagine it as buying a car 10 years ago because it solved all your mobility needs (shopping, occasional longer trips, dropping kids/family members to their events etc). You wander into the garage 12 years later and…

And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile...

And you may find yourself paying for 5TB of cloud storage with feature bloat...

And you may ask yourself, "Well... how did I get here?"

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