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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Apple doesn't want to sell you a laptop, they want to sell you an oversized ipad with a keyboard. Unfortunately the giant trackpad is here to stay

The giant trackpad is one of the most appealing features of the machine to me and many others.

You can see the point though, right? I’m personally ok with the trackpad, but compare it with the “nipple” from the old IBM laptops. You could scan across the entire screen with the barest movement of your finger. The minimalism in that design was impressive,

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If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

On top of that I want one USB-A port, so I can plug in my mech keyboards without using adapters, which I frequently lose or break.

I'd be shocked if they went back to USB-A.

And, honestly, I'm glad with their push for USB-C, no audio jack etc. Most companies are stuck in the status quo due to the chicken-and-egg problem but Apple is willing to be the first mover.

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I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

If they release a new form factor I would imagine the current “starter” M1 MacBook Pro with touch bar will be retired so this won’t be a problem.

Perhaps they’ll make Touch Bar an optional extra.

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I hear you. I have the same thoughts. Touchpads on most laptops have sufficed for my use. People swear by the touchpad on Macbooks, but to me it never really was that big of an improvement. My bias could be due to the fact that I don't use the touchpad exclusively and always attach a mouse when I can.

Its a hangover for 10 years ago when low end laptop touchpads were pretty bad. I find my carbon X1 touchpad nicer to use than my 15" macpro. Although I am impressed how well they made the haptic tap feel like a real button on the mac.

Gesture support is also incredible on macOS. It's the little things -- if I start the motion to "show desktop" by spreading my fingers apart on the touchpad, windows will seamlessly start the motion with my fingers. If I decide to abort the gesture with my fingers, windows on the screen match my motion exactly. I can also customize gestures like expose, mission control, desktop switching, etc. to my liking by assigning different gestures to different commands -- I've never used a Windows laptop or any kind of linux environment with that kind of customization, though I'm sure with sufficient work you could get linux to do something like that.

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If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

Yup. All I want is a 2014-or-so form factor——forever. Update the tech guts year after year, but keep the old design. It’s perfect and requires no more innovation. While you’re at it, Apple, just keep High Sierra forever and just do bug fixes and security patches. No new features! One can only dream.......,

Amen, there is such a thing as "perfect design" if you are talking about the narrow envelope for designing a laptop. A screen, a keyboard, there's not a ton of headroom for adding widgets or decreasing sizes in the physical domain. Plus, there is such a thing as "timeless design", and you can see that Apple has already achieved it by the fact that most other laptop vendors are converging on their MacBook designs that are a few years old now. Apple itself took inspiration from timeless, modern and functional industrial design found in things like Braun appliances from the 1960s which, by the way, still look modern today.

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yes, but also the damn trackpad. I feel like i'm getting carpal tunnel just trying to avoid swiping the damn thing with my palm it's so freaking huge. Been 3+ years still feels like it's designed specifically to get in the way of my work.

My main gripe with the trackpad is not being able to customise the size of the right click area. It's so small compared to the size of the trackpad.

That is unfortunate, and probably a sign of a feature that nobody at Apple (and few external users) bother with. Everyone I know uses two-finger right click and a very small subset of friends use ctrl+click.

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I am typing this on the M1 Air. I had the Pro with a Touch Bar before. I don't miss the Touch Bar per se, but I did like the ability to customize it for my liking. I also liked scrubbing on video or music software. The escape key is back on all MacBooks now including Touch Bar. I guess I am still on the fence about the Touch Bar and its usability. I think apple envisioned more developer adoption and novelty.

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I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

Imagine a USB-C compliant version of MagSafe. That would be awesome. not sure if the physics work out (can you efficiently push that many bits through a magnet like that?)

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What a taint to his legacy. Not a good way to go out.

Perhaps his legacy isn't so great My macbook has terrible sharp edges that dig into your wrist, the usb-c ports are so close together I cant put 2 plugs in as they hit each other, one of the keys is faulty because its a butterfly model, it has wizz bang touch bar but no physical mic mute button, a few key caps have worn off as they are laser etched rather than double shot, the giant touchpad sometimes zooms while typ…

Jony Ive always needed someone as a critic to keep his designs in check. That person used to be Steve Jobs. It's pretty well known that Tim Cook is hands off when it comes to product design. And Jony Ive used to have heated arguments with Scott Forestall - until he was fired because of the whole Apple Maps thing.

So for a good chunk of time Jony Ive had no one to rein him in and the result was minimalism run amok. Not that minimalism is bad but I think you all know what I'm getting at.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk.

Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually damaging something).

Apple likes to toot its own horn way to much, but they deserve tons of credit for Magsafe.

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