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It was a Mac Mini, but yeah, I can't find it in the article, did the tests account for cooling? I assume the M1, like any other modern SoC, will throttle as the temperature goes higher.
M1 will not throttle in the Mac mini, only in the fanless MacBook Air.
Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
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Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
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M1 uses LPDDR4X at 4267MHz. It is not overclocked.
Nitpick: It's 4266 MT/s (at 2133 MHz). DDR is 2 transfers per clock.
Some higher-end RAM even gets above 5100MHz / 10200MT/s https://www.crucial.de/memory/ddr4/blm2k8g51c19u4b, so I had expected Apple to get somewhere around 7600-8400MT/s at 16-19-19-36 or better timings.
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I've read various theories about the right memory clock speed to use for Zen, but in all the gaming benchmarks I've seen, faster RAM clock speed ends up resulting in higher performance.
> I've read various theories about the right memory clock speed to use for Zen, but in all the gaming benchmarks I've seen, faster RAM clock speed ends up resulting in higher performance. Got citations? Better yet if there are any developer-oriented benchmarks. I'm building a Zen3 machine to use as a workstation. I just ordered DDR4-3600 RAM (but can still probably change the order if I made the wrong call). The spec…
I'm having trouble finding it now, but IIRC I also once saw a side-by-side comparing different RAM latencies, and the differences were not enough to outweigh clock speeds; i.e. overclocking with worse latencies was better than lower latency but lower clock.
That being said I've seen non-gaming benchmarks that imply that there is a 3600mhz sweet spot. So it may vary based on workload. I haven't looked into that closely though — I was looking at benchmarks when building a gaming PC, so I had a specific focus :)
Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
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It may outclass it in performance. However, all my life I've been waiting for something that runs over 10h on a single charge. I am naturally surprised that this is not something that ppl truly appreciate in a laptop. Hell, I even bought a cheap Atom laptop once just to have more battery time. So as of now, there's literally no decent competitor to M1 laptops. One must be living under a rock to buy anything but Apple…
Using a laptop screen for 10 hours a day is a waste of a day, and if you're at your desk with multiple monitors then you don't need a laptop.
Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
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M1 will not throttle in the Mac mini, only in the fanless MacBook Air.
So it still has a fan and a good heatsink? I'm not familiar with them, that's why I'm asking.
Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
#316Thanks for sharing some programming-centric benchmarks using modern CPUs. I always wish that CPU reviewers would stop churning out pages of graphs with synthetic benchmark workloads and instead post things that actually matter, like compile times and other programming benchmarks. The M1 processor is extremely impressive for the price and power envelope. However, I'm noticing a lot of people have taken Apple's marketi…
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-59...
"For the code compilation speed tests were compiking Apache, PHP, the Linux kernel, ImageMagick, GDB, LLVM, FFmpeg, and MPlayer."
Re: Ryzen 5800X vs. M1: Programming benchmarks
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Core and cache organization gets more difficult, yes. So do thermals and layout, which is not where Apple has experience (they don’t make any custom chip that requires a fan that I know of). That said, they have had a looong time to think out this, so I have confidence they will make it work over the next two years.
The M1 mac mini is air cooled and I believe that's the setup most are benchmarking against? The proc pulls just over 20W max load IIRC(best on estimates because Apple never talks about it so everyone just assumes all m1s perform at the Mac mini level but draw the air power).