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Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

It's high time for somebody to make an appliance running open protocols that behaves like cloud applications but that is owned and hosted at one's home. Maybe it's what NAS is turning into, but open, and more broadly conceived: for email, chat, etc.

https://clarkconnect.com/

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One of the advantages of being on an exponential growth curve is that this figure has been way lower in the past. Just go back 5 years and it's only a fraction of that. 5 more years and it's even lower. The gmail/drive/etc. data that come from Google's first decade of existence probably fit into those 4.3 petabytes.

How is this an advantage?

Advantage in the sense that they have to store less. 4.3 petabytes times the age of Google in days is way way more than they actually have to store, as the time period when they were adding 4.3 petabytes daily is short in comparison.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Company giving you tons of free shit gives marginally less long lasting free shit. And its only if you're OVER the storage limit for an entire 2 years. And you can choose to pay for more storage if you'd rather keep the data. It's really not that bad... I think sometimes people hold Google to insanely high standards. They gave us so much free stuff that people get mad when they try to charge for it. Others say to mov…

so kind of a problem here though. I pay for what was google g suite for the "unlimited" storage. I'm at around 13TB stored, it's mostly just backups so not really a huge deal if I lose it. The problem is there's no real way to pay them for this. The new workplace plans are vague about additional storage.

I don't get why companies selling storage cant offer higher and higher plans in say 2tb chunks.

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That's mainly media. What's the deal with deleting emails of all things, as if they couldn't support that aspect indefinitely?

Right! Maybe they are cutting email because it is not as profitable. I agree with the other poster who brought up storage costs not keeping up with growth of stuff to store. I wonder what this means for youtube...

Email is the tightest grip Google has on me. Maybe YouTube.

But their Google music fail, their rising phone prices, their bait and switch photo storage, and low quality search results have caused me to change.

Any alternatives to Chrome, Firefox on both Android and Desktop are buggy, I want a different company?

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I’ve been very happy at Fastmail for the past few years. Their customer support has been quick and very helpful for me. It’s paid so I know that I am a customer and not a product. When I signed up I just forwarded my old gmail account to it. Now it sounds like I should finally update my email address for all the services still using it!

FastMail is probably the best among the bunch but it's still worse than GMail: - There is no "always display images from this contact" option if you don't want to load images automatically. You have to click on "show images" every time you read an emai, even from a trusted contact. - There is no "open mailto: links on FastMail" option on desktop. - Spam filter is too aggressive. I've missed too many legit mails while…

You can configure fastmail to show remote images from all your contacts, but it’s all or nothing: https://www.fastmail.com/help/receive/remotecontent.html

Is this what you are asking about for mailto links? https://www.fastmail.com/help/send/openemaillinks.html

The spam filter can be customized, but I agree that it isn’t nearly as good as gmail’s. I have it configured to move messages with a score higher than 3.5 to spam which prevents all false positives for me, but 1 or 2 spam emails a week still get to my inbox. https://www.fastmail.com/help/technical/spamchecks.html#cust...

I agree that the comment manager is barebones. Fastmail does support CardDAV so you could use a different contact manager but I haven’t had the need.

Edit: I swear I am not a Fastmail shill. Just a happy customer!

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Wow, 4.3 petabytes a day . Operating at Google's scale these days is just nuts.

One of the advantages of being on an exponential growth curve is that this figure has been way lower in the past. Just go back 5 years and it's only a fraction of that. 5 more years and it's even lower. The gmail/drive/etc. data that come from Google's first decade of existence probably fit into those 4.3 petabytes.

The other implication of exponential data growth is that shortening retention periods is only a short term solution to storage costs.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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> "If you're over your storage limit for two years, Google may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos," the company said. That's different from just deleting all your data because you're inactive. Which is it? Edit: it seems both. Here's the blog post (maybe this is a better link): https://blog.google/products/photos/storage-policy-update/

It's high time for somebody to make an appliance running open protocols that behaves like cloud applications but that is owned and hosted at one's home. Maybe it's what NAS is turning into, but open, and more broadly conceived: for email, chat, etc.

Nextcloud Hub does all of this:

https://nextcloud.com/hub/

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Yes. I can prove that this is real. I had a Gmail account that I registered when I was younger and did exactly that - setup a forward to my alt (which over the years became my primary). A few years ago I started receiving emails for another person with my same name. Legit work emails, party invites and the like. Turns out that person was using my original email. I never contacted anyone about this for fear Google wou…

> Yes. I can prove that this is real There's also at least two alternative explanations. I also get a lot of emails to an account I own from someone who keeps using my email instead of theirs. You'd think they would have noticed they aren't receiving them by now, but apparently not. Are you also totally sure that it's not just someone else entering an email address they don't own for work and party invites? And for a…

Another explanation is the address changes Google introduced. I’m not sure when, but my firstlast@gmail.com became addressable as first.last@gmail.com. Someone else originally created first.last@gmail.com and I get their emails.

Re: An update to storage policies across your Google Account

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Set a reminder every 3 or 6 months to use Google Takeout. Download a full copy of your data to a hard drive in your local possession. If you’re really paranoid, download a 2nd copy and put it on a hard drive that you then leave unplugged from all computers and the internet until the next time. Simple solution for anyone with broadband, and then if you ever lost your cloud data due to subscription lapsing or inactivit…

Google Takeout doesn't seem to work for me. Any time I setup an export, they appear to be scheduled, but never run. If I go to takeout.google.com now, I see: "Export 1 of 1 will start on 18 November 2020" Any idea what I'm supposed to do about that?

Sue yourself and have your lawyer send Google a letter demanding your data as evidence.
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