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Re: 1MB Club

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Post by adrianN » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:31 AM UTC

jan6 wrote: post #300

dylan604 wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you were able to calculate the space in the document flow for those images, I'm fine with the lazy loading. I hate when the page text appears rendered long enough that I start reading, but then lazily loaded items cause the flow to rearrange the text so that I lose my place.

I imagine it should be pretty easy with javascript to set up dummy images, and replace them... probably also doable in pure css, just make them a block element or something, with a set size...

Wasn't this what progressive jpeg was invented for?

Re: 1MB Club

#312

Post by adrianN » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:42 AM UTC

hinkley wrote: post #69

geodel wrote: post #66

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If general public even knew who to complain they would have surely yelled loudly. For now I hear non-tech people say 'Oh, our internet is slow even though we pay lot of money' Meanwhile valley bros keep helpfully reminding me to upgrade my computer to a reasonable 2020sh.

I wonder if the answer is better visualization tools? We have fairly detailed dashboards that we as developers can look at, but there is no “check engine light” version for people who just want things to “go”.

How would you make a check engine light actionable for the visitor of a website? They already notice that it's slow and their fans start spinning.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by kerryoco » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:46 AM UTC

to make the 'small impact' much bigger - can someone turn this list into a search engine ?

Re: 1MB Club

#314

Post by scottisbrave84 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:52 AM UTC

This is a youtube dl production.

Re: 1MB Club

#315

Post by kerryoco » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:53 AM UTC

Legion wrote: post #245

This reminds me of people who buy powerful machines, then run the most threadbare Linux environment possible and freak out anytime the machine's RAM and CPU aren't completely idle. I do miss the lightweight early/mid 90s web sometimes, but I have no interest in artificial constraints that treat smallness as a virtue in and of itself.

guilty as charged

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by wolco2 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 5:53 AM UTC

z3t4 wrote: post #276

highmastdon wrote: post #130

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Don’t forget that also 1MB of JavaScript is much much more heavy on the client than 1MB image

Check out this app: https://webide.se/?disable=fonts,discoveryBar It's over one hundred thousand lines of JavaScript code minified and Gziped into a 300KB bundle which should fully load in about 300ms on a decent computer.

That took 4000ms on a phone.

Re: 1MB Club

#317

Post by Dylan16807 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 6:02 AM UTC

jan6 wrote: post #301

SulfurHexaFluri wrote: post #211

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You people are why some sites have ugly blurry logos/images on my 4k screen

more the fault of the site devs for not using css media queries, or svg ;p

Does getting in the club assume you have a low resolution screen?

SVG only works in a few places.

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by jan6 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 6:18 AM UTC

Bud wrote: post #265

ffpip wrote: post #65

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Are you not using an ad blocker? danluu.com has google-analytics, which is a very large script. Please use uBlock Origin.

Ad blockers already don't work. They're largely useless. If you use one these days, you already know why.

they are LARGELY useful... they do what they say on the tin, at least unless you visit some super agressive site which uses anti-adblock, but, then again you can conf up an anti-anti-adblock ;)

Re: 1MB Club

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Post by z3t4 » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 6:20 AM UTC

wolco2 wrote: post #316

z3t4 wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out this app: https://webide.se/?disable=fonts,discoveryBar It's over one hundred thousand lines of JavaScript code minified and Gziped into a 300KB bundle which should fully load in about 300ms on a decent computer.

That took 4000ms on a phone.

What hardware/tools did you use to measure?

Re: 1MB Club

#320

Post by Retric » Fri, Nov 20, 2020, 6:26 AM UTC

josmala wrote: post #290

yellowapple wrote: post #92

I love it! I feel like the 1MB limit is excessively generous, especially for text-only pages. But maybe that's what makes it so damning when pages fail to adhere to it. I know at least one website I maintain fails it spectacularly (though in my defense it's entirely because of that website being chock-full of photos, and full-res ones at that; pages without those are well under that 1MB mark), while other sites I've…

Something about all pages being under limit the limit instead of every page being under the limit changes the exact meaning to something that I cannot agree with. Which was the meaning I replied below and then wrote this after realizing you might of meant every when you wrote all. Lets say you write a daily blog. A single A4 of text contains on average 3000 characters, your posts average slightly above that by being…

I doubt you can find a single text blog on a specific topic that wouldn’t be improved by limiting it’s total text to 1MB.

Being more verbose is generally just poor writing. Now, using a separate website per topic seems like a silly limitation, but the more topics being discussed the less relevant the discussion.