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#311

On the technology side, I think we're pretty close to the point where small startups can create video hosting platforms. For low traffic, running them through ffmpeg and dropping a tag works pretty well. For higher traffic, I think something like BunnyCDN can be used for a reasonable cost. But the technology isn't the problem. The problem is nobody is going to use your platform. We need to decouple discovery from hos…

A lot of people who have been banned from having the wrong opinions would like to host their videos somewhere... and some already do. A useful app that I can think of is one that supports subscribing to various independent video publishing websites... but aggregates them in one app.

If it doesn't support the big boys (ie YouTube), I don't see it going anywhere. And the only interface I'm aware of for subscribing in a way YT doesn't control is the URL, which is just fine with me.

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#312

With the amount of attention around this outage, it feels like YouTube has become completely ubiquitous in modern society. I can't imagine a future in which YouTube just ceases to exist. The company has already become tied to the livelihoods of so many people, and has spawned too many significant subcultures. It's a strange feeling to be alive just after all of the significant technology companies were created and st…

The saddest thing about YouTube disappearing would be losing the vast trove of educational content that has amassed over the years. We live in a unique time in history when you can go online and learn how to do absolutely anything you want for free. I feel like the majority of people still hugely underestimate how valuable this is. Granted, there's a lot of junk to wade through. But the information is out there.

One more thing I was thinking about is that I don't think people are uploading things to YouTube just to have YouTube be declared as outdated in a few decades in preparation for the next form of media. The implicit expectation that most casual producers have is that the videos will remain on YouTube "forever," which really means some vague amount of time that doesn't have to be thought about in the short-term. This is a major difference from television because YouTube can be used for personal expression, major productions broadcast on television are archived by the studios because the finished product is not restrictively large in terms of data, and I don't think people would be happy if the millions of hours spent producing their independent content will be all for nothing in a few decades. To keep all of that content alive in the future, YouTube either needs to continue to exist or the content needs to be mass-migrated to the next form of media.

But what would that form of media be, and what would be the justification for creating an entirely new media platform to succeed YouTube? I find it difficult to imagine what it would look like at this point in time.

People made a big deal about archiving Usenet when everyone started moving away from it. If YouTube has to be archived I don't see how it can be completely accomplished without people who have used youtube-dl in the past gathering up whatever they happened to save before it went down. There's hundreds of millions of hours of video already on YouTube, and unlike Usenet archives only a few large entities have the money and infrastructure to warehouse the entirety of that data.

Saying that YouTube will pass on because media companies always pass on almost sounds as if YouTube is a ticking a time bomb, and after enough time passes we'll inevitably lose a lot of things that brought us value en masse, and the scale of loss will be far greater than in the past because of the breadth of content and the sheer ubiquity of YouTube.

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#313

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At least one vlogger I follow posts duplicate content on Bitchute (which is up).

Wow, the front page of bitchute is 100% conspiracy. Is that... umm... what it's known for?

The only time I've used it is for inrange.tv content that isn't allowed on YouTube - things like uncensored gun manufacturing or assembly instructions.

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#314

On client side looks like requests for the video stream return 502 'bad gateway'. I actually get back a little webpage it says: 502. That’s an error. The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request. Please try again in 30 seconds. That’s all we know.

> XXX. That’s an error. > > [...]. That’s all we know

How old is this? I think I've always seen this error message from Google. It's at least 15 years old.

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Something people seem to forget is circumvention isn't always illegal. You may circumvent copy protection for a work you own the rights to view, so the complaints about youtube-dl are poorly founded.

That's the problem with DMCA 1201. It doesn't care that breaking of DRM can be done for legitimate uses. It just point blank forbids it. The supposed excuse of that overreach in giving the Librarian of Congress the ability to define exceptions is totally lame and unacceptable.

You didn't understand what I wrote. You can break copy protection if you own the rights to a work. This means you can e.g. circumvent Window's license checking if you own a copy of it already. The DMCA does not criminalize that, nor could it, and this is probably why py-kms is still up on github after a copyright challenge.

This was a change that I am assuming was added before any complaint could be mounted about this use case for fear of striking more of the DMCA down than just that provision that was modified.

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#316

Recalling mr.Stallman. This is a good reminder about what can happen with all of your online projects/ data/disk storage/letters/photos/notes once it stops working ...I never stored things online.

In the light of the recent events with Apple when you cannot even run programs on your own computer without problems if Apple server doesn't allow it, perhaps some downvoters should give another thought on this

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Sorry it might be due to my age, but I don't understand this. What's the meaning behind the "Stonks" photo they posted?

It just means punhub is gonna profit from youtube being down. ie stocks("stonks") rise

But https://nitter.net/punhubonline doesn’t have any videos that I can see.

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#318

I know there's a whole "infrastructure as code" and "immutable infrastructure" thing happening, but how about "revertible"?

If your infrastructure is codified, you should be using versioning for it as well.

That can be considered necessary but not sufficient.
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