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Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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Did anyone happen to cache the IP address for fulltiltpoker.com? I'd like to add it to /etc/hosts so that I can at least connect to the client and get a screenshot of my balance.

91.211.98.20; it's posted abovethread.

That is the already-seized alias IP address. Go ahead and browse to it.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#312

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There are tables where you can play 250k in one hand. Not for me ever but I have a much much smaller balance. They make more money by being trustworthy than not. It has happened but it has usually been detected by players noticing unusual patterns in a players actions/win rate.

>> There are tables where you can play 250k in one hand. Not for me ever but I have a much much smaller balance. To my knowledge the highest stakes spread online are FT NL/PLO games of 500/1k (so buyin is $100k) and 2k/4k limit (you could theoretically buy in for what you like but the largest you could play in a pot would be 2 4 + 8 4 = 48k >>> They make more money by being trustworthy than not. >>> It has happened b…

> To my knowledge the highest stakes spread online are FT NL/PLO games of 500/1k (so buyin is $100k)

Aren't there deep-stacked high buy-in games now? Besides, I actually have a screen shot where I sat at a .25/.50 table ($50 buyin) long enough to get it up to $500, or 10 buyins. Surely it's possible for two players to sit at 500/1K and get the balance up over 250K. I'd even dare to say that in a reasonably-long headsup match, it would be very likely.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#313

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There are tables where you can play 250k in one hand. Not for me ever but I have a much much smaller balance. They make more money by being trustworthy than not. It has happened but it has usually been detected by players noticing unusual patterns in a players actions/win rate.

>> There are tables where you can play 250k in one hand. Not for me ever but I have a much much smaller balance. To my knowledge the highest stakes spread online are FT NL/PLO games of 500/1k (so buyin is $100k) and 2k/4k limit (you could theoretically buy in for what you like but the largest you could play in a pot would be 2 4 + 8 4 = 48k >>> They make more money by being trustworthy than not. >>> It has happened b…

People rebuy. There have been a number of pots over $250K. Not hundreds but you can find somewhat of a list here http://www.pokerlistings.com/market-pulse/biggest-pots

What I meant is the poker rooms have more to lose by getting caught being dishonest than they have to gain by skimming some profits.

There has been a few cases where employees were found to be using exploits to cheat. In these cases its usually players finding unusual patterns in their play and calling them out on it that has lead to them being caught.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#314

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Bitcoin is in for it as soon as it gains any reasonable traction. The government is not going to be happy about that at all. Fortunately, btc is a peer-to-peer network and should theoretically be hard to shut down. I doubt it's actually hard to shut down since the client gets its list of peers from the user list in an automatically and transparently joined IRC channel (if I understand correctly). Heh. I think, howeve…

If the Bitcoin client cannot connect to the IRC channel, it uses an in-built list of initial nodes to connect to the P2P network. Shutting down the IRC channel via a court order wouldn't shut down the Bitcoin network. You could harvest IP addresses from the IRC channel, but you could also do that by running the client and noting down which peers you connect to. Unless you're running behind Tor or I2P, it's not hard t…

This helps some I guess, but I don't think it'd be that hard to take out all or almost all of the hardcoded initialization nodes if they're able to get IRC taken down, too. btc really needs a more robust method to locate peers. IRC with a few hardcoded fallback nodes is not very decentralized imo.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#316

The hijacked DNS has not propagated everywhere yet. Mine are still working. If anyone has last minute business to do on these sites, such as cashing out before the FBI steals your money, add these to your hosts file: $ host pokerstars.com pokerstars.com has address 77.87.179.116 pokerstars.com mail is handled by 20 mx20.pokerstars.com. $ host absolutepoker.com absolutepoker.com has address 66.212.244.175 absolutepoke…

Thank you very much. Unfortunately for me, you didn't hit fulltiltpoker in time.

Ah, sorry :( It was working between the time that I checked in my browser and the time I posted. Maybe these will help:

$ host 209.47.206.47

47.206.47.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer fulltiltpoker.com.

$ host 209.47.206.46

46.206.47.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer fulltiltpoker.com.

$ host 209.47.206.45

45.206.47.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer fulltiltpoker.com.

$ host 209.47.206.44

44.206.47.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer fulltiltpoker.com.

There are a few related domains that reverse resolve around that netblock. Some spot checking isn't showing a web page for me, although it is connecting to a webserver.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#317

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They are using a TLD (top level domain name) operated by a US company (Verizon). The government hasn't gone out of it's jurisdiction, technically speaking.

Verisign, not Verizon.

Autocorrect on iOS, sorry.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#318

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This doesn't make any sense to me... is bartering illegal? Where does one draw the line between bartering with chips and paying with chips?

No bartering is not illegal. Neither is buying, selling, and trading collectible Barbies. What is considered to be illegal (and I'm not a lawyer so I can't say definitively if it is or isn't) is creating an instrument, which represents a value (possibly fixed), and engaging in commerce using the instruments in lieu of the actual thing. So trading a Malibu Barbie for a Space Barbie, or perhaps a Barbie Dream Home woul…

The Barbie example doesn't really make much sense. I could just as easily say I'm trading Malibu Barbie which is nominally worth $25 for a Space Barbie which is nominally worth the same, and run afowl of currency laws. Or that I'm trading Space Barbie for lunch with no mention of nominal worth and call it barter.

The test you propose about conversion is at least logically consistent, but it's not what I see applied. For example, Berkshares (local currency in the Berkshires) can be traded for USD but they don't run afowl of currency laws.

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

#319

The event was big and changed a lot... but not for pokerstars or other services. The client can use ips to auto-update with new domain names probably (it's got a pool of addresses to try). In a few days enough new links will be created to pokerstars.net that it will be reasonably visible on google. Service itself will buy loads of domains and start advertising as pokerstars.{your_tld}. In the meantime, pokerstars.net…

you should try pokerstars.pt ... it's already done, you silly...

pokerstars owns about 1950 domain names... enough for you?

Re: FBI seized PokerStars.com, FullTiltPoker.com, UB.com,... domain names

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There is no law prohibiting private currency. Disney Dollars: http://www.disneydollars.net/ BerkShares: http://www.businessweek.com/smallbiz/content/jul2007/sb20070... . Buy Local—With Town Currency Dollar alternatives, such as BerkShares in Massachusetts, are shoring up local economies by keeping money in the community Microsoft Points: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Live/MicrosoftPoints Pittsboro Plenty: http://www.demo…

Nika, none of the issuers you mention will convert back into dollars. Its a one way street. Presumably they have set up agreements with people who will accept them an they have pre-negotiated a discount rate. Its like chucky cheese tokens, you can't turn them back into quarters so that you can play more video games.

Actually yes, you can convert BerkShares back to USD. http://www.berkshares.org/whatareberkshares.htm
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