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YouTube TV sharply increases monthly subscription to $64.99

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ObShameless reminder that https://puffer.stanford.edu remains free of charge. The site streams San Francisco affiliates and local stations of NBC/CBS/ABC/PBS/FOX/CW as part of a university study on video streaming algorithms -- it's essentially a big A/B test to try to reproduce or clarify some of the findings in the research literature. We're now posting all our data and analysis each day. Research talk here: https:…

I love listening to another Countries radio or watching their television. It just so interesting watching their commercials or listening to their local news and events. One of my favourite things to do is ask my google home to stream random radio stations, so I’ll ask it to stream whim and see what happens, most of the time it’ll find nothing, neutral sometimes it come up with a radio station in Bakersfield, Or Detroit or Memphis. Even randomly asking for radio Toronto brings something up.

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Yes. You get the same ads as when the show is airing live and if it’s a local market slot you get a dark screen with text saying it’s taking a commercial break. When watching shows you recorded as a DVR you can skip them by fast forwarding. When watching shows YouTube tv has offered that you didn’t record you get preroll and in-line ads that are usually unskippable just like Hulu.

Thanks. That's horrific.

A European will have a big problem to understand how you can pay that much money to submit yourself to this torture...

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We don't have this in Europe. Does it carry in show adverts as well?

Yeah, I thought this was referring to YouTube Premium at first (which doesn't seem so bad as it would let me download videos to my phone to watch when I don't have connectivity)

This YoutubeTV thing just seems awful - frankly I'm amazed it has lasted this long.

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Try listening to a music radio station sometime. I turned one on for the first time a 10 years a couple weeks ago and in a 45 minute drive heard approximately 2 songs. The entire rest was station identifiers and commercials.

The non-commercial band in the United States is 88-92FM. All the best (many college) stations will be in this band: KFJC, WFMU, KEXP... Radio is alive and well in the U.S., its just not commercial radio.

Huh. KUOW, (one of) Seattle’s NPR stations, is on 94.9. Wonder what the story there is

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At $20 they were disruptive, at $65, they are dead to me. I will be interesting to see how many others leave. The "teaser" cable package is more channels and half the cost. I think it is just a continuing trend in Google getting squeezed harder and harder by the falling search advertising margins and no replacement or even side hustle to compensate. Just before Google winks out of relevance I expect to see them try t…

They definitely charge people to use maps... A lot.

corporations aren't people, despite a lot of hand wringing to the contrary

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I pay for YouTube Red because I can skip through ads. It's worth it. In YouTube TV you get to see unavoidable ads, unlike in TV where you can switch the channel while those ads are running.

> I pay for YouTube Red because I can skip through ads. It's worth it. Hard to see how this could possibly be worth it, since you can also skip the ads for free.

This isn't necessarily true. I don't have any behind the scenes knowledge, but I suspect that enough money or reputation can buy you unskippable ads. I've had several ads I have been unable to skip, running to as long as 15 seconds for the TV+ Tom Hanks movie from Apple. Almost every ad for a Google product has also been unskippable.

Could just be an extension of Google's anti-Apple UX design, but I would be rather surprised.

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I'm no lawyer, but it doesn't exactly seem legal. Streaming free local network broadcasts was definitively ruled as illegal by the Supreme Court in 2014 -- remember that was Aereo's entire business model. [1] It seems like the Stanford service is trying to justify themselves by being an academic study and limiting to 500 concurrent participants... but it's telling they don't list any legal justification on the site,…

I never understood what the business interest of the tv stations was in preventing streaming online. They already give away for free the stream over the air. What gives? Do they make money on the antennas or receivers or something?

I think that they broadcast over the air for free only because they are required by law. Otherwise they would probably only be available on cable, Netflix, etc...

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YouTube TV is nowhere near good enough to demand that high of a price. The shows are limited, the DVR interface is terrible, and the DVR barely even works. It's nowhere near as good as Vue was.

I agree, PS Vue was the best alternative TV service IMO. Just worked perfectly on a great range of devices.

I had the opposite experience. Fire TV was painful to use Vue on. I had such a bad experience with every streaming app that when I did use Youtube and it actually worked smoothly I was amazed.

Not $65 amazed granted.

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