Olympus quits camera business after 84 years

Post by coldtea » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 6:39 AM UTC

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To me, the big monoculture risk is Sony's image-sensor fab. As I understand it, Sony, Fuji, Nikon and many others all rely upon the output of one company's manufacturing process. There's a good reason for it -- they appear to make the very best sensors (edit: in terms of dynamic range and noise) in the commercial-camera market. Canon makes their own sensors, which are good in absolute but not relative terms, which ap…

I don't think its quite accurate to say Canon sensors hold anyone back. Canon photographers continue to win awards, continue to create world-class images, etc, etc. Canon gear is very well represented in the professional photography community. They wouldn't be using the gear if they couldn't get their work done. There are several gear "measurebators" online arguing about base ISO DR and +6EV exposure recovery, who pr…

Post by morcheeba » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 6:41 AM UTC

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Totally agreed, but if that one fab company falls over, much of the imaging industry has a problem. That's the monoculture.

In bigger semiconductor business we have three main fabs. Intel, TSMC, Global Foundries. Intel is closed to outside customers, so again we have a duopoly there. It's not very very different in the bigger picture if you ask me. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Post by sudosysgen » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 6:52 AM UTC

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> Canon makes their own sensors, which are good in absolute but not relative terms, which appears to hold them back in performance It's a little early to state this. Once the R5 and R6 come out we'll have a better idea of their capabilities as those are slated to have their new tech (8K video etc etc).

Even with the current sensors it's true: Things like dual-pixel auto-focus has put Canon sensors ahead of the competition for a long time. (Dual-pixel AF doesn't just give way better AF, it also avoids artifacts from dedicated phase detect pixels that other cameras have.)

Post by sudosysgen » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 6:57 AM UTC

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Sony also has new bodies being announced in a few weeks and Sony's lens lineup is already unmatched. Even Sigma ART glass beats out most Canon lenses in DXOMark's tests and cost much less.

I seriously doubt you know Canon's lens lineup.

Post by sudosysgen » Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 7:01 AM UTC

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> I thought mirrorless cameras were already outselling DSLRs. In volume, yes. In profit, it's still close, but mirrorless has been closing the gap for a long time. And Sony used to be king of the hill with mirrorless, but Canon and Nikon have quickly caught up and the playing field is a bit more level (even as Sony holds the crown for most of the technical features). The thing is, ecosystems matter a lot past the hob…

> I wish I could have my Nikon lenses on my Sony (with no compromise) I don't follow that stuff, but does Metabones make a Nikon F -> Sony E speed booster? > Nikon made some of the great smaller-sensor size lenses that you can get for APS-C or micro 4/3rds. They did make smaller lenses, but for the Nikon 1 system, which was an underrated system. I became a 4/3rds shooter when Nikon cancelled the Nikon 1 line, but I s…