Live data from Hacker News

Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

tholman.com

311–320 of 336 posts

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#311
post #232
post #32

"back to top" is just such an epitome of how out of touch some modern design is. We had buttons on our keyboards that did this for half a century now. As for phones it should be up to the web-browser to implement it, nobody wants to use your idea of how scrolling should work. My machine already knows how I want to browse my content, don't pretend you know better.

> out of touch This is ironic. The vast majority of users don't know about most of these functions. They just use their mouse. Even for basic things like: - navigating & selecting text (words, lines etc.) - switching between windows - opening search (like spotlight, if they use it at all...) - opening & closing windows/tabs, saving files etc. The list goes on. UI design is not about teaching you how to use a computer…

Sure but should all these be part of browsers UX not the website itself?

Maybe we should be pushing browsers to have better UX on-boarding and teaching people that home button will scroll you up to the top of the page etc.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m normally a macOS guy but I’m currently using windows full time to give WSL a proper chance. The thing I miss most is CMD+Arrow to go to the start/end of something. I think it’s a beautiful system, alt+arrow to jump a word, cmd+arrow to jump to the start/end. The home/end keys are always so hard to find especially when they could be anywhere depending on your keyboard

I'm not a Mac user so I may be missing something but can't you do that with Ctrl+left/right?

Ctrl+left/right is equivalent to alt+left/right on mac, which jumps to the start/end of the word rather than the start/end of the line

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m normally a macOS guy but I’m currently using windows full time to give WSL a proper chance. The thing I miss most is CMD+Arrow to go to the start/end of something. I think it’s a beautiful system, alt+arrow to jump a word, cmd+arrow to jump to the start/end. The home/end keys are always so hard to find especially when they could be anywhere depending on your keyboard

Alt+Arrow on OSX is Ctrl+Arrow on Windows. I just switched to OS X recently and I am definitely having the reverse trouble getting used to the Cmd/Alt+Arrow I almost never have problem finding Home/End on any keyboards (been using Windows/Linux for 15+ years). Nowadays for laptop it's almost always fn+Arrow for Home/End.

Once you get into mechanical keyboards, there are many custom layouts for anything outside the typewriter keys ;)

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#314
post #156
post #68

The "back to top" functionality is so useful in web pages. I wish they would make a dedicated button on keyboards that just takes you to the top of the page. Better yet, it can work in other apps too! It could, for example, take you to the beginning of a line when you're writing text. Edit: Wow, I thought I was going the extra mile to make the joke obvious by saying the key should also take you to the beginning of a…

After 20 years of using keyboards, I have, thanks to this comment, discovered the "Home" button.

6 years in university + 10 years of work experience.

Today I know what Home/End keys do, because of a random comment on the internet.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alt+Arrow on OSX is Ctrl+Arrow on Windows. I just switched to OS X recently and I am definitely having the reverse trouble getting used to the Cmd/Alt+Arrow I almost never have problem finding Home/End on any keyboards (been using Windows/Linux for 15+ years). Nowadays for laptop it's almost always fn+Arrow for Home/End.

Once you get into mechanical keyboards, there are many custom layouts for anything outside the typewriter keys ;)

How many percentage are there? I am not from English speaking countries, and I have never met anyone using non-standard layout before. So, like, do I need to care if I am not targeting software developer?

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#316
post #159
post #32

"back to top" is just such an epitome of how out of touch some modern design is. We had buttons on our keyboards that did this for half a century now. As for phones it should be up to the web-browser to implement it, nobody wants to use your idea of how scrolling should work. My machine already knows how I want to browse my content, don't pretend you know better.

Does Android not have some native scroll-to-top gesture/button? On iOS you just tap the status bar and it's uncommon for it not to work where you'd expect it to.

I like Android's scrollable scroll bar (I don't know precise name) that supports scroll to anywhere but nowadays very few app uses it.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#317
post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After 20 years of using keyboards, I have, thanks to this comment, discovered the "Home" button.

Other keys that may be non-obvious: - Insert toggles between shifting characters after the cursor to the right and deleting the character to the right of the cursor, replacing it with the new character you typed, but not replacing a newline character. While eg. Caps Lock is global, Insert mode is local to the text input that currently has focus - tab or mouse over to a new window and you've lost Insert mode, tab back…

I only use NumLock(button and LED) for test whether kernel is alive or dead.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right click mute tab (i think it might be experimental)

Haha, it used not to be, but then Google crippled the feature. Firefox is looking better by the day.

Google changed it for "Mute website" when right-clicking a tab and it's not experimental.

It's better than "Mute tab" because it's persistant over multiple sessions.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#319

I think other than being kitchy, the part I love the most is NO FRAMEWORK: plain js. No pre/mid/post/art-deco processor that turns 4 hours of work into 40 hours.

I've been developing some games and frontend on my free time for fun. I've been using typescript and Pixi.js but other than that nothing else. As a backend engineer, I've always thought about learning a frontend framework but I've never actually had a strong need of it. So question if you're a frontend engineer: Should I? I never felt the need of a framework despite I render quite a bit of dom elements. Do I have a n…

If you have a multiple team-members and you need to get everyone using a common approach, frameworks can be useful. If you need to do small unit's of work and need to leverage boilerplate functions, frameworks can be useful.

The issue I see today is many of these frameworks started as ways to build efficiency; they have degraded into disciplines that require exorbitant investment without corresponding business value.

Re: Elevator.js – A “back to top” button that behaves like a real elevator

#320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you are being overly paranoid. If you want to fight for security on that level, your computer life must be miserable. You are also missing out a lot of great tools and are way less effective then folks that use them (and thus less competitive). I am all up for great security in OS, emails, browsers, messangers etc, but it has to stop somewhere. Also, this kind of stuff like vimium is so widely used that someb…

I share your perspective, but it's not a good perspective to encourage, imho.

I believe it is. You can say the same thing about anything else - do you inspect any TV or telephone you buy for hidden recording devices? Do you inspect any hotel/airbnb room ? Do you do that with supplements, cooking aparatures, plant checmials, mattress material, car breaks etc.. No you don't. You believe its good. Multiple times it did happen they were not good and stuff were spying, poisoning, leaking, killing etc. Yet nobody decides to not buy stuff in order to be 100% protected like there is such thing, because it is miserable life.

Life is risky by default. You calculate your ods.

Post reply on HN