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Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by metroholografix »

floatingatoll wrote: post #87
metroholografix wrote: post #12

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https://github.com/atomontage/chrome-private

This looks very useful, but it combines valuable profile management work with disabling various web features per the author's opinions. Sadly, disabling those features by default makes it significantly easier to fingerprint users using this script (which is precisely the opposite of its intentions). So I forked it and set those features to be disable-if-requested rather than disable-by-default, so that people who jus…

Forking to switch a bunch of command line arguments around seems excessive to me. You can simply write a wrapper script that passes the arguments in the way you want them to be passed.

Enabling those options does nothing to improve fingerprinting resistance, it's a completely bogus argument.

Disabling them however, in combination with the recommended extensions that are in the README plus custom user agent handling, does bring tangible benefits.

Finally, fingerprinting resistance isn't mentioned once in the README. It's simply too hard a problem for me to claim that this simple script intends to solve it. You can however use the script as a foundation that you can build custom strategies on top of. More than adequate for that purpose.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by jeromegv »

solarkraft wrote: post #150
AlphaSite wrote: post #148

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My favourite feature in safari is it’s tab garbage collection. Where it just closes unopened tabs after 1 week.

Without asking? That'd get me pretty confused/mad.

Well you need to enable the option. If that fits you, it's pretty convenient. On Mobile tabs just get to accumulate and I don't have time/interest to close them all.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by Tobu »

TheArcane wrote: post #241
padenot wrote: post #137

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> Then you could add some sort of ctrl-p style fuzzy search that includes both url and content. Try focusing the URL bar in Firefox and prefixing your query with '%'. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/address-bar-autocomplet... shows more prefixes like this. It does not search the content of the page, but is super useful still.

The worst part is that % cannot search across containers I'm baffled how firefox hasn't figured this out yet

Here's the bug [1]; apparently someone made it so on purpose [2].

In related issues, I'd like switch to tab to be consistent so that ctrl-clicking on an awesomebar result always opens it in a new tab, instead of depending on whether it found a tab or not.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1479858

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1287866

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by jeromegv »

bbx wrote: post #129

It seems to me I’m in the minority by being a minimalist here? I have at most 10 tabs open. Same for Sublime Text open files. I regularly close all but one tab/file just to reset my cognitive load. This does force me to rely on the history from time to time, which I must say is a true pain in Chrome. You can’t even search or filter by date. Also, revisiting a page will move it up the top of the list, which is annoyin…

I also rely a lot on the history and that's why I dislike Chrome. It looks like they make the history a pain in the butt on purpose just so that people rely on google to find what they need. I keep my history for a full year in Safari and it's quite easy to search for past websites

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by teilo »

As much as I like this, why is it so hard to have tab management that just works? I have six pinned tabs that I always want up. Important things like Gmail, Calendar Drive. Stuff that should never change. I don't want to have to remember to open links in a new tab from pinned tabs. It should know that pinned means pinned.

Perhaps if they enabled group persistence? I'm hoping this rather obvious feature is in there.

My solution has been to use a tab manager with a saved session that I can always recall when my pinned tabs break (such as when Chrome crashes, and loses my session entirely).

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by parenthesis »

slater wrote: post #39
nieve wrote: post #22

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Don't feel too bad about your tab hoarding, I'm at 3 windows with 4630 tabs and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a stress test than a user. Chrome can't function with 1/20th of mine and Firefox runs smooth and fast. Restarting with loading all the session data takes seven or eight seconds total. It can't just be the different multi-process models so I'm pretty sure that the Chrome team can do better.

4k tabs?!? D:

I'm not feeling so crazy now about my current 490 tabs.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by eppsilon »

klohto wrote: post #100
matsemann wrote: post #29

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Can't remember why, but I ended up using Sidebery instead of Tree Style Tabs. So that's also a nice alternative.

I wasn’t aware of Sidebery, but it looks way better than TST. How is the performance? With TST I notice it doesn’t “hibernate” older tabs (only if you restart FF). EDIT: Damn! I'm blown away by Sidebery. The amount of customization and native looks is awesome. There is only a slight problem when compared to TST: It does not preserve tab grouping when parent tab is closed.

There is another extension called Auto Tab Discard that integrates with TST. I'm going to check out Sidebery too though...TST is a little rough at times.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by maciekmm »

Timpy wrote: post #240
maciekmm wrote: post #90

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Shameless plug. I made the ContainerTabsSidebar firefox addon[0], which is inspired by the TST. It groups tabs based on firefox privacy containers, which means every container has an isolated cookie store. I'm a tab hoarder and developed it to work for such "use-case". It's very similar to the groups presented, but displays tabs vertically. [0]: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/container-tab...

I like this because it organizes my tabs in the same way I do mentally... however it doesn't actually reorder my tabs. What I mean is, Ctrl+Tab surfing through my tabs doesn't iterate the list as it is displayed sequentially.

I am planning to add automatic tab sorting to the plugin. There's a github issue for this exact problem. I just didn't have time to implement this feature. ;)

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by 72deluxe »

I find tabs in Safari and Chrome fairly difficult to navigate when using them (I have many open and scrolling through loads isn't that useful); I find Safari's overview mode (pinch out on iPad or Mac) far more useful because you can see what you're after.

Re: Coming to Chrome: a new way to use tabs

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Post by fraXis »

benrbray wrote: post #25
gkoberger wrote: post #19

Maybe I'm wrong (EDIT: seems I'm wrong!), but I feel like the people with dozens of tabs open (guilty) aren't the ones who use organizational features? Also, it's a hidden feature, but you can already Shift+Select a group of tabs, and close/move/etc the whole group.

Wrong! I have a very sophisticated system for managing my tabs. I'm very breadth-first when browsing the web and I also switch contexts a lot. Tabs are like a big Todo list for me. For a while, I would get really frustrated when chrome would crash and close all my tabs, but recently I found a ln extension that keeps track of my tab history as a big tree! Yippee!

What is the name of the extension that you use to see your tab history as a big tree?
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