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Post by briandear »

zionic wrote: post #231
sn_master wrote: post #112

I use Pixel 4, and I absolutely hate not having a fingerprint sensor. Cons: * At night it doesn't work, because I am laying on the bed and half my face is covered. * It doesn't work when I am not wearing my glasses. Annoying when I have just woken up or going to bed and want to check a quick notification. * Sometimes it unlocks by itself even if I don't want it to. For the headphone jack, I got a cheap USB-C ones and…

FaceID is so terrible. It's hard to imagine a company based out of sunny California invented an authentication system that requires you to remove your sunglasses. It also sucks in any bright environment like say... the beach. Which they don't have much of in California of course. When the ambient IR is too high the sensor can't see it's own tracking dots on your face so it can't build the 3D mesh to authenticate you.…

How should Face ID work with a mask that covers half or more of your face? Doesn’t that defeat the purpose?

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Post by motge »

developerdylan wrote: post #170
tazjin wrote: post #68

The old iPhone SE had two things that appealed to me (and anecdotally, that appealed to some of my friends): 1. it was small-ish 2. it had a headphone jack Without those I don't see this as a viable followup product.

It's still viable for most people. Most people will be okay with the included pair of wired headphones.

I use my EarPods with headphone plug on a number of devices. The one with the Lightning connector is only useable with Apple devices, so this is again a vendor lockin. This has to stop.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by grwthckrmstr »

Is it weird that we're in 2020 and I still keep assuming that phones have a headphone jack by default... Until I check the spec sheet and realise there's no headphone jack :(

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by McTossOut »

radec wrote: post #246
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

except that 4.7" is not exactly compact

The main reason I haven't dumped my XZ2 Compact for a Palm Palm is my paranoia around owning a Chinese designed device.

Largely the same story for those waves of Android Lollipop "smart watches".

I'm very unhappy with the market for mobiles, it seems manufacturers have no balls, and are clueless about what I want / sensitive to what carriers are willing to sell en masse.

In a phrase, the stupid shitty financing options carriers provide seem to define the market for devices (supply, credit, marketing), not what actually makes a good device.

Shame all around.

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Post by wastedhours »

hajile wrote: post #247
coldpie wrote: post #161

Yes. I'm an Android user who is absolutely sick of phablets. I have a Pixel 3A (5.6") and it is way, way too big. I've been quite excited about this iPhone SE announcement. However, the lack of a headphone jack is a huge negative, and 4.7" is the absolute largest I think is reasonable. A little smaller would've been ideal. I'm undecided on whether to switch to the SE, but I genuinely hope it sells like crazy. Then ma…

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

On the flip side, my phone does have a headphone jack and it's been a perennial weak spot. Debris gets in there far too easily to the extent that it doesn't even allow me to use a standard headphone cable.

I'm not an audiophile, so wireless headphones and streamed music is more than good enough for me - but as someone who has a headphone jack and would be more than willing to use it, it's not exactly been a bed of roses after a couple of years of use.

Am sure a manufacturer with better QA than OnePlus might be better, or if I'd have wrapped my phone in bubble-wrap every time I place it in a pocket it wouldn't have got stuff in there. But that's the anecdata from someone with one.

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Post by Eric_WVGG »

close04 wrote: post #292
fergie wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. In terms of form the iPhone 5 was best. The last iphone that could be used one-handed.

If they'd have minimal bezels, for comfort, in an iPhone 5 body we'd have about ~5.2" available for the screen. Unfortunately keeping the bezels for the fingerprint reader, earpiece, and front camera (~60% screen to body ratio) means that while it would fit better in small hands, the small screen may not give a great experience with today's content (sites, apps), or our eyes. My old iPod Touch 5th gen. was quite a sh…

a 5.4" iPhone has been consistently rumored for this fall, would have an "6/7/8 Plus" screen in your 5-series form factor.

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Post by Bahamut »

throwaway287391 wrote: post #276
hajile wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My current phone has no headphone jack and it's been an absolute pain the whole time. Adapters are hit-or-miss and generally suck. Even high-end devices (mine was over $800) often have hissing due to the analog signal running fractions of a millimeter from a bunch of digital signals. Adding insult to injury, music objectively sucks with bluetooth. A good DAC takes space and power. Multiple drivers take space and powe…

Comments like this always make me really glad that I've never tried "good" audio equipment. I think music sounds great with my Sony XM3s and even my AirPods, and I don't have to travel with a DAC to experience it. shrug

I think it depends on what you want - I have some pricier headphones myself & I used to own monitor speakers too, but I never think to use any of it with a phone. I use a phone to be on the go, and having big headphones don't go with that well unless I'm sitting for a long time like an airplane.

So far I've been dealing with being on the go with the PowerBeats Pro - it's good enough for my purposes (light, good battery life, sound is good enough, somewhat compact), although I have it mainly because the AirPod Pros were not out then.

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Post by _lqaf »

yabatopia wrote: post #268
andrepd wrote: post #214

I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. It drives me up the wall that I simply cannot find a reasonably competent phone (i.e. mid/upper range from the past 4 years) which is not absolutely fucking huge. It's insane that the "phablet" standard from ~5 years ago is now not even the new standard, b…

> I was itching for this announcement, not because I want to buy an iPhone, but because this will finally mean other manufacturers will start to make compact phones. There are plenty of compact and competent phones. A Samsung A40 for example is barely larger than this new iPhone SE, but has a 5.9 inch display. A friend wanted a smallish smartphone and she's quiet happy with the form factor.

> has a 5.9 inch display

That is not a compact phone.

I know I'm in the minority here, but the iPhone4, in my view, was the ideal form factor (3.5", I think). At least half of the time I glance at my phone, the informational payload is not even a full sentence and requires no interaction. Otherwise, I check mail and sometimes use maps. More or less, my phone occupies the niche that I'm supposed to want a digital watch for, but don't.

If I need more screen, there are a plethora of options. I really don't want a tablet in my pocket. And I don't keep it with me like anywhere nearly like I used to - it has turned in to more of a 'desk phone' that I check when I think about it.

Re: New iPhone SE

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Post by petilon »

Invictus0 wrote: post #281
petilon wrote: post #169

You can get iPhone 6s for $100 from cellular carriers such as AT&T: https://www.att.com/buy/prepaid-phones/browse/apple/ I am sure the new iPhone SE has more advanced everything but if you're just using it for text messages, occasional photo and Whatsapp you'll hardly notice any difference.

What about 3 years from now? It doesn't make sense to stick with the 6s for much longer, and I'm speaking as a current 6s user.

I am currently using the original iPhone SE and for my purposes it works just fine. I use it for texting, Google Maps, checking stock prices, occasional photo/movie, email, WhatsApp, bank apps, NYTimes app, Apple Pay. I had the battery replaced last year and plan to use it for the next 3 years or until Apple adds a compelling new feature to the iPhone (which they haven't for several years). I dislike the newer iPhones because they are too big to be comfortable in my jeans pocket.
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