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Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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So I was one of the first people on Wallstreetbets to post options YOLO around 2015, back then it was nothing but rainbow dick banners and penny stocks. I had previously interned at a brokerage and had just graduated college with a degree in physics(I understood the math behind options). Not hearing back from quant trading firms because I guess BSc is not enough for them, I said fuck it and started taking speculative…

I absolutely love that Wall Street Bets has graduated from penny stocks to options bets. It was so frustrating in the earlier days of WSB to want to talk about options. The rules were that "it was the place to talk about VIX and speculative options trades" but it was just full of trash about biomed penny stocks and FDA approval gambles. It was what set it apart from other "finance" communities online and especially r…

> But then it became similar to other finance communities by having an absolute anathema to anything bitcoin or crypto.

Thank god. I just recently joined WSB and would immediately quit if this was about shitcoin gambling. Options at least are based on stocks and they have real value. Way different than the inherent value of 0 of crypto BS.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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> You're in private mode. Subscribe to continue reading in private mode. I didn't realise that Bloomberg blocks private mode too. Messages like this assume that tracking is the default and make sure that we keep losing privacy. I really dislike this trend.

Add ||assets.bwbx.io^$script,domain=bloomberg.com to your uBlock filters

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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3) You don’t need to have complete data to report what you think is a market manipulation scheme to the SEC for investigation: > Tips - Report a potential violation of the securities laws directly to enforcement@sec.gov. Please do not use this email box for general comments or questions.

Just remember that reporting things to the SEC makes you the enemy. The SEC exists to protect the people exchanging securities.

I just want to point out that "protecting the people exchanging securities" by extension also means "people who trust money managers to exchange securities on their behalf", which would include most people with a 401k or a pension, not just some stereotypical stock jock. Come on, dude.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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Back in the early 2000's I worked for a company that was was hired (via intermediary law firms) by publicly listed companies to investigate pump and dump schemes on Yahoo message boards (you might call that the "Reddit of the early 2000's"). It involved a lot of web scraping Yahoo with Perl (specifically LWP) and then lots of analysis by humans with some help from automated tools. For example, if you plotted a histog…

Hah... The guys on the scox message board automated this pretty well; there was a user named warmcat who even opened sourced some of it. The Reddit comments usually aren't long enough to be meaningful, and I think that there are now organised p&d teams, so that level of investigation isn't very useful anymore

You'd be surprised what you can get out of short Reddit comments if they're posting in multiple subs for long enough, see https://redditmetis.com/ for example.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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> selling order flow data to hft and market making hedge funds but I don't think those funds execute the orders themselves The order flow data is worthless (because the orders come from uninformed traders) the value is in filling them without the risk of being shortchanged (because the orders come from uninformed traders).

Surely the order flow is mostly going to look like noise, random. But things like local information and employee information would provide some signal - correlated trading patterns - that indicates there could be some information available to inform a trade. Allowing one to either trade on the meta-signal or seek the information behind it (and then trade). So if you've got a company and the city in which it's headqua…

You get the orders to fill, not the identity if the counterparty as far as I know.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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> You're in private mode. Subscribe to continue reading in private mode. I didn't realise that Bloomberg blocks private mode too. Messages like this assume that tracking is the default and make sure that we keep losing privacy. I really dislike this trend.

Or we could just... stop linking to properties owned by Michael Bloomberg altogether. That's also an option.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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In Sweden someone was convicted for triggering such bots to do stupid things. Morale: if you are big player, you file a lawsuit. If you are a small player, you get convicted. If your bots do "stupid things".

Do you have more details?

Another case but similar: https://www.fokus.se/2016/02/robotdodaren/

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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A comment I'm sure you expected you'd get on this forum: you're gonna have to elaborate a bit on/defend a bit that opening line there about being one of the best options traders in the world.

Seems like WSB is leaking.

Is it really that surprising? Tendies and autism are popular on HN, as are investing discussions.

Re: Reddit’s profane, greedy traders are shaking up the stock market

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> Someone's just bought a $1000 call option on a stock that's currently $400? Automated trading systems will probably raise alerts on that stock since someone must know something for that to happen. The trading system and its operators deserve whatever fate results from such a decision.

In Sweden someone was convicted for triggering such bots to do stupid things. Morale: if you are big player, you file a lawsuit. If you are a small player, you get convicted. If your bots do "stupid things".

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