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What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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I'd thought I'd get around the madness of mattress shopping by using just the technique mentioned in the article here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22377160 At least, until I found something I liked. I purchased a Purple 3, thinking that if I loved it, I'd just stick with it. I did love it, but I couldn't justify spending $2k on a twin(!). I returned it, and purchased from another company for ~$700. I didn't…

If you was any one of these open box returns, I can hook you up.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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COGS for Casper is ~50%, which doesn't quite line up with your $50. I suppose if you mean $50 in raw materials, plus construction costs, then fine, but that doesn't get you to 20x markup. The margin isn't that crazy. Typical retail markup is 30%.

I meant purely raw materials.

Yeah that's fair but that's not a realistic way to view the cost of a finished consumer product.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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Get a firm or very firm innerspring mattress from IKEA. You can do this for less than $300 and it will fit in the back of a sedan in it's roll-up-package. Sleep on it for a bit. If you don't like the feel, which you probably won't, add a memory foam mattress topper for ~$50. Use a thicker or thinner topper to suit your needs. Congrats! Because your mattress is firm, its foam will not break down for a long, long time.…

Not sure this is good advice. I like a firm mattress, but IKEA mattresses are absolutely terrible. I also cannot sleep with a foam topper on any bed. They're hot and screw up my back beyond belief.

> but IKEA mattresses are absolutely terrible

To each their own I guess, I own one for 2 years and sleep like a baby every night.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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Being thoughtful about the environment is important. It’s important to mention that some bed in a box realtors aren’t doing the best they can. Gotta Sleep uses bio foam which is made with soy based oils and donates all returned mattresses. https://gottasleep.com/products/omg-mattress

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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I'd thought I'd get around the madness of mattress shopping by using just the technique mentioned in the article here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22377160 At least, until I found something I liked. I purchased a Purple 3, thinking that if I loved it, I'd just stick with it. I did love it, but I couldn't justify spending $2k on a twin(!). I returned it, and purchased from another company for ~$700. I didn't…

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Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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None of those things, Shipping, returns, AWS costs (unless directly part of the manufacturing process) would qualify under gaap as cogs.

Inbound shipping is definitely part of cogs for every company I’ve been part of, but agree on to customer shipping, returns and hosting.

Agreed on inbound shipping. But outbound shipping to customer would not usually.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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Not sure this is good advice. I like a firm mattress, but IKEA mattresses are absolutely terrible. I also cannot sleep with a foam topper on any bed. They're hot and screw up my back beyond belief.

Ikea sells different types of mattress (spring, foam, latex), each with different thicknesses and price points. I've bought ~10 Ikea mattresses, avoided the cheapest ones of each type, and been pretty happy. I can understand why a foam topper would feel hot. It's main purpose is to provide a sleeping surface that's the same shape as your body, so of course this means it maximises the amount of contact between you and…

The problem I have with foam mattresses is they conform to my shape TOO well. Pressure is transferred from my strong tough parts to my weak parts. Instead of applying pressure to my arms and back, foam will apply pressure to my ribs as well. It took months to get used to it.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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Yeah, furniture is really frustrating. High end luxury or made-for-the-dumpster junk. As I like to call it, the vanishing middle market.

There's definitely a middle to the furniture market... it's just expensive enough most people assume it's the high end.

The low end market keeps growing because it's all people can afford. Because salaries are not keeping up with productivity, and outside of white collar jobs, are struggling to keep up with inflation.

They assume it's high end because, to them, it is.

Re: What happens to a mail-order mattress after you return it

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I'd thought I'd get around the madness of mattress shopping by using just the technique mentioned in the article here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22377160 At least, until I found something I liked. I purchased a Purple 3, thinking that if I loved it, I'd just stick with it. I did love it, but I couldn't justify spending $2k on a twin(!). I returned it, and purchased from another company for ~$700. I didn't…

There was a pretty popular recent post on reddit's /r/unethicallifeprotips about this recently. It's beginning to become common knowledge that paying for a mail-order mattress is often optional. By choosing not to request a refund (and keep the product), you are subsidizing the purchases of everyone else who does. If you squint this kind of looks like the CyberRebate business model and I wonder how much longer it'll…

> CyberRebate

Holey moley, that was a fun rabbit hole

During the dot com bubble of 2000-2001, there was a company where you could buy things online for 10x the normal retail price, but they'd send you a rebate of the price after a couple of months. (And you would keep whatever you'd bought)

Much like every other time someone claimed to make all their profit off of the "float", it turned out to be a big scam

https://www.cnet.com/news/millions-vaporized-in-cyberrebate-...

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