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Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Bizarre that this pretty inoffensive comment got flagged to dead. I vouched for you.

If it doesn't say [flagged], it was not flagged. All comments posted by this account start out [dead], i.e. they're banned.

I see; thanks for explaining that.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Israel is probably just too small of a market at the moment. In most European countries there still isn't a official Tesla store or service center. I live in the Baltic's and a friend of a freind has a Model X which was involved in a minor accident (other drivers fault) last year. To get it repaired without affecting the warranty it had to be sent to Tesla, which meant it had to be taken to Finland (700km) or Germany…

> “Israel is probably just too small of a market” I’m not sure if size has much to do with it. Tesla is in remote countries like New Zealand (1/2 the population of Israel) and Iceland (about 1/20th the population of Israel), as well as neighbouring Jordan (similar size to Israel).

I don't know about New Zealand, but Iceland is part of the EU's single market when it comes to selling cars. I'd expect for a company like Tesla dealing with regulatory overhead in new markets might be the limiting factor.

New Zealand is an English speaking country so perhaps it's easier for them, and to sell cars in Iceland you don't need to do anything more than ship cars you're selling in the EU over and pay import tolls & registration fees.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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Wait, so if I have this correct, the airport took ~6 years to construct and 9 years and counting to correct problems with its construction? Meaning that it would have been faster to tear the entire building down and rebuild it from scratch than it is taking to remedy the issues? How does that happen‽

I read that it's mainly a software problem, which would make sense why the delay is so long. Building and fixing problems with the building are done faster than fixing the software to manage that airport.

No, it's not mainly a software problem. As is common in big delays, there are multiple issues, but a fairly big contributor was political arrogance that wanted to brush away fire regulations. That didn't work.

Re: Tesla’s European gigafactory will be built in Berlin

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It is great news for Berlin (and Brandenburg) as it will bring (big) money and attract talent. It might even attract people from Poland which is only an hour drive away and has a large pool of very talented and experienced engineers. So far besides maybe Siemens there wasn't too much industry here, which is more present in the south of the country. Being outside of the city center it won't contribute too much to gent…

> which by Berlin standards is an amazing result.

They only, and rightfully, get pissed when mega corps like google/amazon come in the city center, buy a 40 storey building and starts paying everyone 100% more than the average for the same position.

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It’s less of a good idea than the people here seem to think (especially Germans). Germany, as a shareholder of VW and very dependent upon taxes paid by all German car manufacturers is the “enemy” and has a large arsenal of methods available to hurt Tesla on its turf.

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I think it makes sense. Berlin is very spacious and connected to a lot of cities via rail.

Berlin is about 230 km (140 miles) away from Wolfsburg, where Volkswagen is located. Pretty sure there is infrastructure and are suppliers nearby.

Probably will attract a few people from Volkswagen. I personally know people who commute to WOB from Berlin, since they just cant stand the town. (And you cant blame them). Although to be fair VW acknowledges the undesirability of their hometown and has also opened Dev offices in Berlin.

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No, this is bad news; it's a smaller version of the economic bomb/distortion of creating a google campus somewhere. This will be bad for everything from housing up to the general health of startup culture in Berlin. Desperate move by the economically starved Brandenburg. (and of course they won't suffer the consequences)

The startup culture in Berlin is mediocre at best. I think bringing in proper high tech will be very valuable

Worse than Amsterdam's?

/s

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There are so many poor nations in Europe where the people are suffering, of course, why not manufacture in the richest where the costs are highest with the lowest unemployment to ensure you have to pay higher salaries.

Makes sense to me, if you're a nazi sympathizer.

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why are german labour laws very well suited? Tesla had several incidents with injured workers and safety violations

> Tesla had several incidents with injured workers and safety violations More than the industry average in the state of California? If so, care to site your source?

Numerous, repeated stories over the years. They keep claiming they've improved, and it's possible they have, but stories keep surfacing.

https://riskandinsurance.com/5-takeaways-from-teslas-safety-...

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