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Re: Broken

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Post by ekianjo »

blunte wrote: post #203

It's all very depressing. Like most of us here, I have become increasingly frustrated with the state of Mac (touch bar, bad keyboards, odd choices that fit neither creators nor developers well, and so on). No point rehashing it all. But where does that leave us? I spent a year on Windows 10 not so long ago, on upper end laptop hardware with HiDPI screen, and it was less fun and more problem prone than macOS - especia…

> to work is a lot of effort, and then mysteriously something will stop working.

Oh Please. this lie keeps getting repeated every single time this topic comes up. Meanwhile people who actually use Linux every single day have like zero issues for years to keep things running and working. I have 4 machines using different flavors, getting updates all the time and nothing mysteriously breaking, and this for years. Sure, you will always find the one user saying the exact opposite but among all the Linux users I interact with this is not the norm.

Re: Broken

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Post by lol768 »

gonehome wrote: post #230
MisterOctober wrote: post #214

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I switched from macOS to Linux [Fedora now] about a year and a half ago, out of the same frustrations that affect a lotta folks -- It took a little while to adjust, but since there are a lot of similarities between the Linux and Darwin command lines [and Linux package management being better than homebrew by my lights] , it wasn't very long before I was like "Damn, why didn't I switch 20 years ago!!!" Plus now my har…

Does the hardware actually work? I've used Linux several times over the years and the hardware never totally works. I've always had trackpad issues, issues with suspend and hibernate, wifi issues, screen resolution issues, battery life issues, sound issues, driver issues etc. It 'works' in terms of you can technically do work on it, but you have to make a huge number of concessions and this is before considering it h…

>I've used Linux several times over the years and the hardware never totally works

> Does the hardware actually work?

Yes, flawlessly. Desktop with a GeForce GTX 970 (prop. driver) & AMD Ryzen 5 2600 & MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2 (MS-7B84). Laptop (Lenovo Yoga 730) works just as fine.

Re: Broken

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Post by ekianjo »

dcow wrote: post #299
wldlyinaccurate wrote: post #241

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In my experience most hardware works flawlessly, although admittedly some hardware is better-supported. I've owned two (soon three) Dell XPS 13 laptops since 2013 and have always had a really smooth experience running Ubuntu. The worst of my Linux woes were the usual suspend/hibernate issues running Ubuntu on company-provided Thinkpads. I've also had to use various Macs for work in the past and have had terrible issu…

Suspend/hibernate works on thinkpads with a moderately recent Linux kernel and a bios toggle.

Source about the BIOS part? I own many thinkpads and use them at work too and never had to do anything with BIOS settings.

Re: Broken

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Post by badsectoracula »

als0 wrote: post #59
irq wrote: post #37

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This is the biggest thing keeping me from leaving the Mac for Linux, and it hasn’t really improved much in the last 4 years. I don’t think most people care about HighDPI (or whatever you want to call it), particularly Linux devs. But I can’t go back to lower DPI screens.

> I don’t think most people care about HighDPI (or whatever you want to call it), particularly Linux devs. But I can’t go back to lower DPI screens. I find this surprising. I'd say anyone who does any serious amount of multitasking (whether a Linux dev or not) would easily want one. I think people do care but they are just waiting on better pricing/availability.

I prefer low DPI monitors, i just like the pixels :-P.

(writing this from a 23" 1366x768 desktop monitor)

And honestly a lot of things are so broken in hidpi anyway that i do not see a reason to bother.

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Post by oneplane »

techntoke wrote: post #151
snapples wrote: post #131

Things are so broken here at Apple. I joined about 4 years ago. I am awed by the fact that we manage to release any software at all, let alone functional software. The biggest problem is communication. No one fucking communicates. - No communication between orgs. Tons of bureaucratic tape to cut through just to get a hand on someone working on a different product - Barely any communication between teams. Literally ev…

> Culture of secrecy means nothing gets fucking done. You file a bug report and you can’t even see it any more for some orgs > And you can’t speak out about this. Apple doesn’t take well to employees complaining. Even then, because of the lack of organization there is no one you could raise these issues with. Sounds similar to a cult.

No, it sounds like any large multinational. In the end, all commercial entities turn into the same thing where they only differ in branding, segment and origins.

Re: Broken

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Post by ekianjo »

Cyph0n wrote: post #269
gonehome wrote: post #230

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Does the hardware actually work? I've used Linux several times over the years and the hardware never totally works. I've always had trackpad issues, issues with suspend and hibernate, wifi issues, screen resolution issues, battery life issues, sound issues, driver issues etc. It 'works' in terms of you can technically do work on it, but you have to make a huge number of concessions and this is before considering it h…

I recently built a home media server/PC and decided to try Manjaro. Amazingly, everything worked out of the box. I actually had a Ubuntu live USB ready to go in case I hit issues, but now I’m in love with Manjaro + KDE :)

Manjaro has become really good indeed. Good defaults too and the install process was fairly well done.

Re: Broken

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Post by ekianjo »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #238
gonehome wrote: post #230

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Does the hardware actually work? I've used Linux several times over the years and the hardware never totally works. I've always had trackpad issues, issues with suspend and hibernate, wifi issues, screen resolution issues, battery life issues, sound issues, driver issues etc. It 'works' in terms of you can technically do work on it, but you have to make a huge number of concessions and this is before considering it h…

Newer distributions like Ubuntu, Fedora tend to have much better hardware support than other distros. I've used Linux since Ubuntu 7.04, and hardware support has made leaps and bounds since then. That said, it's still not perfect, and warrants a trial on a throwaway hard drive if absolute hardware functionality is a must.

Except Arch, which is miles better in hardware support because it is uses the very latest kernels

Re: Broken

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Post by oneplane »

baq wrote: post #190
als0 wrote: post #91

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While on the subject, on Linux I've also noticed that Xscreensaver (or GNOME screensaver, can't remember which) sometimes goes straight into the desktop after wakeup for a few seconds before the lock screen prompt actually appears. You can even run programs. Really bizarre and feels like this issue has been present for a while now. Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me?

for the record I used to be able to see a bit of the desktop on windows after waking from sleep before the lock screen came on. can't remember if that's still true, though.

Ah yes, I remember that happening on windows xp a lot when it was waking up or between screensaver and login timeout (when they overlap), you'd even get the transition-to-welcome-screen sound so you know it only just triggered the locking just then. I suspect if you are fast you can run something before it actually locks.

Re: Broken

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Post by bloody-crow »

Gorbzel wrote: post #139

Why does what seems likes every commenter / blogger on this site feel the need to write a think piece about how they no longer trust Apple and all those other times they weren't the one complaining? (Hint: they were.) It's always the same – this time out: • Guy installed beta software and it was buggy. STOP THE PRESSES!!!! • "I'm a pro user, I've functionally given escalated privs to apps that steal my data, every El…

I don't know if you just skimmed the article or deliberately misrepresenting its arguments to make your point. Either way, this behavior deserves a downvote in my book.

> Guy installed beta software and it was buggy. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!

The author is describing the experience on the stable point-zero release of the OS. He only mentions beta to set up the context.

> "I'm a pro user, I've functionally given escalated privs to apps that steal my data, every Electron container POS ever written, and 100 open standards only Chrome supports. How DARE Apple ask desktop users for permissions on upgrade!?!?!? Keep that security stuff for smartphone users – filthy casuals."

That's pretty much the opposite of what the author is actually saying in the article. You're misrepresenting quite agressively.

> Forgot Password

Sure, that's possible. It's also entirely possible, given poor overall quality of the release, that it's an OS' fault.

> Somehow my hostname changed during a system update.

Are you saying it's not an issue worth mentioning? I disagree.

Re: Broken

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Post by arboghast »

the_pwner224 wrote: post #113
arboghast wrote: post #30

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So was I until I switch to a 4k monitor and realize that there's no real, stable, functional fractional scaling on Linux, even less so on XFCE, unfortunately.

KDE has excellent support for fractional scaling, to a single decimal point. It is also a very lightweight and fast desktop environment, but has plenty of useful features.

I did try with Plasma on both Kubuntu and Arch at 1.2 and in both cases some controls had very ugly and/or blurry fonts and some were fine. The inconsistencies were too annoying.
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