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>We estimate that we operate within 100 milliseconds of 98% of the Internet-connected population in the developed world, Am I missing something here? For Reference; A one way New York to Hong Kong connection takes roughly 110ms.
I'm assuming User -> Cloudflare, not User -> Cloudflare -> Endpoint
So cloudflare basically fucks over 8chan over some skimpy mass shooting evidence, and now has a public offering as a corporate company? Get rid of free speech as internet police and sell stock and make millions?
A CDN is hardly the Internet Police.
[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1702_h315.pdf
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>Throughout this year it is just loss-making companies floating everywhere on the markets here and have boarded the hype-train into the red. Cloudflare is a loss-making company too, and their losses are growing. From the S-1: "we have incurred net losses of $17.3 million, $10.7 million, and $87.2 million for 2016, 2017, and 2018, respectively"
Most of the additional 2018 loss is attributable to the major increases in General & administrative and stock-based compensation expenses. The interesting thing is that net loss in the first half of 2019 is 13% higher than in the first half of 2018 but revenue increased by 48%, judging from the filing's data https://wallmine.com/doc/edgar/0001477333/000119312519222176... Disclaimer: working on wallmine's filings prod…
> stock-based compensation expenses
that reads as "in order to retain employees and be competitive in the market"
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This. I have about 20+ hobbyish domains total, & 13 of them are with free Cloudflare Plan, & 3 of them are with their Domain Registrar side. I am completely fine with their free tier & paying for Domain Reg/Renewal. But just in case if in future i need to paygor DNS hosting, I would fallback to regular domain registar's free dns.
I had one website that I was working on, basically zero traffic, besides me testing it. After a couple of months Cloudflare kicked me off the free tier, asked for money. No idea why. I didn't use much of their resources, well within the limits.
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DNS is far from centralized and DDoS protection is something that small websites would have no ability to do on their own. It isn't just a convenience thing, it's a literally-impossible-without-scale thing.
DNS for sites protected by cloudflare are on cloudflare's DNS afaik.
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> Centralization of the entire internet behind a single entity is a _bad_ thing They do the opposite. They enable small website owners to survive on the internet without having to use vertically integrated services like cloud offerings.
I'm not sure you fully understand the problem. If I hit the big red button and just shut Cloudflare off, millions of websites drop off the Internet. It is a massive single point of failure, and as you point out, a vertically integrated service (DNS, DDoS protection, WAF, proxying, etc).
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How about Slack, PagerDuty, Zoom, Crowdstrike, or Pinterest? These were all in the last few months.
Exactly - relatively little technical depth.
> I'm sure it's just in my head, but it feels like the first tech IPO in several years where there actually seems to be a viable business model.
The companies listed above have what appear to be viable business models. I didn't intend to comment on technical merits, but I think you may be underestimating the technical depth of what some of these companies are doing.