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How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by YayamiOmate »

flyinglizard wrote: post #296
jakobegger wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you are not sanctioning only the military and the government, you are sanctioning everyone in the country. You are sanctioning young people, who just want to live their lives, just like we do. They already suffer from the oppressive regime, and you just want to make their live even harder. All the Iranians I've met seem like completely normal people. I've never been to Iran, but from what I hear the young peo…

At what point should we start to hold ordinary civilians responsible to the actions of their governments?

None? If they are under a regime and the government do not represent their will. At what point you start jailing children for their parent's actions?

For any such action you should consider reason and effect. Do you have a good reason here and do you expect good results, or are yoy hust trying stuff out?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Udik »

yyyk wrote: post #293
Udik wrote: post #286

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> At the moment the people doing the expelling are Iranians ... For whatever it's worth, Palestinians are not being expelled How can you say something like this? It's even happening right now, for example these are today's news: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-jerus... Just imagine the scene: "Bulldozers accompanied by hundreds of Israeli soldiers and police moved in to Sur Baher, a Palestinian…

You can always post an eviction story from any country. We need to look at the larger picture: Palestinian population of Jerusalem is increasing both as an absolute and on percentage basis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Jerusal...

> You can always post an eviction story from any country

At 2am in the morning, with floodlights, military and explosives? On a territory that doesn't even legally belong to that state?

The evictions and demolitions purpose is to build a wall:

From Wikipedia: "the border traced by the barrier is more than double the length of the Green Line, with 15% running along it or in Israel, while the remaining 85% cuts at times 18 kilometres (11 mi) deep into the West Bank, isolating about 9% of it, leaving an estimated 25,000 Palestinians isolated from the bulk of that territory."

So Palestinian houses are demolished to make space for the wall, while the wall bends for kilometers to include illegal Israeli settlements built in Palestinian land.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by saiya-jin »

flyinglizard wrote: post #296
jakobegger wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you are not sanctioning only the military and the government, you are sanctioning everyone in the country. You are sanctioning young people, who just want to live their lives, just like we do. They already suffer from the oppressive regime, and you just want to make their live even harder. All the Iranians I've met seem like completely normal people. I've never been to Iran, but from what I hear the young peo…

At what point should we start to hold ordinary civilians responsible to the actions of their governments?

One serious question - why are you attempting to troll, here and now? Some proper purpose or just another boring monday? You seem to enjoy stirring emotions with your rather simplistic views.

an edit - Iran topic, like many other topics, is a deeply complex one, where past actions create current complex environment. You reduce this topic to simplistic black/white view, which is incorrect on many levels and doesn't correspond to reality out there. Hence the honest question above when looking at your various posts in this topic

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by PunchTornado »

seqizz wrote: post #205
mattigames wrote: post #41

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Or... maybe developers should not play the games the Iran goverment want them to play and every effort should go towards throwing the current dictatorship not to stop using what they want us to stop using?

Oh sorry, how many times did you overthrow your government? Any tips?

I did it once, Romania. Took about max 20k people in the street to start it.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by grumdan »

vms20591 wrote: post #284
flyinglizard wrote: post #272

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"There are right wing fanatics in the "West" who openly are against LGBTQ, trolling them IRL and on social media. Some, calling for violence as well. Pushing those people to depression or cornering them in society, is as worse as hanging them ." Go find yourself some Iranian expat friends and ask them what it's really like to live under the rule of Mullahs, then come back and check if your moral relativism has taken…

I know that Iran is worse, but the West is no saint either, with the atrocities it does around the world. Your country/government is always good when you're not on its bad side. Same goes for mine as well.

> [...] is as worse as hanging them

> I know that Iran is worse

Which one is it?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by r3bl »

Muromec wrote: post #269
r3bl wrote: post #264

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Because sanctions (on the Internet) will radicalize younger people. Iran happens to have an abundance of them: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f9/Ir... If you want to help them, you don't do so by cutting them access to the information. Iran is not a dictatorship, it's a theocracy. Like literally everywhere else, the more people are educated, the less likely they are to let religion govern thei…

>If you want to help them, you don't do so by cutting them access to the information Worked wonders with Russia, right? At least those young people could use foss to better target artillery strikes in Eastern Ukraine to pay off their mortage.

Russian population changes in waves ever since that one generation got obliterated by WW2. It never had >50% of the population being Your analogy (and knowledge of history) is really, really terrible.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by dagaci »

flyinglizard wrote: post #250

I’m always caught by surprise when I see intelligent, educated people ignore the nature and actions of Iran to justify their adversarial feelings towards the US administration. Iran is on an unprecedented aggressive and violent push towards dominating the Middle East. They are deployed in Syria, building forward bases to threaten Israel, destabilize Lebanon and pushing it closer to another war with Israel by funding…

What you are saying may be entirely true, but Iran is entirely balanced in the middle east by an equally savage and hostile neighbors. Otherwise Iran would have already overrun the region.

Israel and Saudi Arabia are perpetually lobbying for USA to destroy Iran. Fortunately at this time Trump is not interested in adding another $5 trillion to national debt to fight other peoples wars.

Lopsided politics? What is really interesting are Iranian the people on the ground, probably the most interesting population in the entire middle-east. They are actually far more liberally minded than most people imagine, they are very intelligent and capable and productive vs the region. I suspect that free from the Islamic-fascist dictatorship they would becoming extremely dominant in the economically and politically in very quick succession.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by darkpuma »

PunchTornado wrote: post #301
jakobegger wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you are not sanctioning only the military and the government, you are sanctioning everyone in the country. You are sanctioning young people, who just want to live their lives, just like we do. They already suffer from the oppressive regime, and you just want to make their live even harder. All the Iranians I've met seem like completely normal people. I've never been to Iran, but from what I hear the young peo…

we suggest them to overturn their government, start a revolution.

Why, so the CIA can ruin it again for them?
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