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Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by JohnFen »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #273
jjuhl wrote: post #133

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Beta == unfinished, may have bugs.

No, "beta" means "finished, but may have non-show-stopper bugs". If it's not finished it's alpha. Beta is pretty much just used as "buyer beware" nowadays, like a disclaimer "we take no responsibility for our bugs".

Offtopic for sure, but the way most places I've worked have used the terms is: "alpha" means that the developers think it's done. "beta" means QA thinks it's done. "release" means that actual user testing revealed no showstoppers.

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Post by ehsankia »

kevincrane wrote: post #120

> We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window. Yessss. It doesn't happen often, but the times when I open up 6-10 tabs for research but then decide…

It's one of the features I love the most on chrome. Even better than pulling tabs into a new window is merging two windows. Without this trick you have to move tabs one by one, but with this you can merge two windows super easily.

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Post by pndy »

kgwxd wrote: post #130
jjordan wrote: post #15

Is this the version that kills Live Bookmarks? Some of us FF old-timers are hopelessly reliant on these things, and it's, as far as I have found, the fastest way to quickly scan lists of headlines from all your favorite sites at once. Seriously, one click and you can quickly mouse over the sites on your bookmarks toolbar to consume hundreds of headlines. I really, REALLY hate that they're killing this feature, but th…

Whats wrong with just using a proper RSS client?

The best thing about RSS reader in Firefox for me was the fact it blended perfectly with bookmarks feature - it was easy to reach especially when you had bookmarks bar enabled. The way it displayed content also suited me - I didn't have to break my browsing flow to open another tab like in Presto-based Opera or special feed with summaries like in Safari; links in form of bookmarks changing titles were absolutely best.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #155
bzbarsky wrote: post #129

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> The same person who managed to make the text and background color not clash Just to check, is that sarcasm? Because having those end up the same for users who use non-default colors is a _very_ common webdev mistake...

No sarcasm, and that question wasn't rhetorical either: How is a scrollbar that different from other input elements within webpages that can already be styled? And what do you mean by using non-default colors? User stylesheets would also include scrollbar colors anyway; do you mean just setting a background but no text color (assuming a default of black, which might not be black for the user)? Don't see how this coul…

Scrollbars aren't within webpages, they're browser chrome. Why not just let the webdev alter that too.

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Post by sorenjan »

kevincrane wrote: post #120

> We’re excited to introduce multiple tab selection, which makes it easier to manage windows with many open tabs. Simply hold Control (Windows, Linux) or Command (macOS) and click on tabs to select them. Once selected, click and drag to move the tabs as a group — either within a given window, or out into a new window. Yessss. It doesn't happen often, but the times when I open up 6-10 tabs for research but then decide…

I use Panorama View, it's a clone of the old tab groups functionality. Multiple windows is hard to save as a session.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-view...

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Post by daveheq »

Ctrl+Tab doesn't work on Mac like other more popular or well-known browsers on any OS... Having a basic often-used feature go against the grain is a disconcerting choice that has caused me to switch back to Brave and Chrome.

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Post by sonar_un »

acdha wrote: post #171
O1111OOO wrote: post #50

RSS is dead... I have a local html page devoted to news. An entry for a specific site will see at least two urls: The main site's URL and a link to it's RSS feed. Linking to the feed directly was a great way to bypass all the modern garbage on the home page to see a simple list of articles (not unlike HN's home page). It's borked now... None of my RSS links render. Chromium was very bad at this but at least it render…

Why not use a feed reader which is designed and optimized for that task? I like Newsblur.com (aka https://github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur ) but there are tons of great desktop apps which do a much better job than Firefox ever did.

Another vote for NewsBlur here too. I’ve been a paying member since Google Reader left us. It’s been absolutely fantastic.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by trulyrandom »

pmoriarty wrote: post #308
trulyrandom wrote: post #268

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That's interesting, because I've had tearing issues with all major GPU brands (Intel, AMD and Nvidia), in particular when multiple monitors are involved. What's your setup like? With regards to security, the main issue is that X11 provides no isolation between applications, allowing them to listen to keystrokes and the clipboard at all times. With Wayland, only focused applications have this access.

"What's your setup like?" Currently I'm using an old, slow laptop, with a graphics card integrated in to the motherboard. Nothing special. But I don't do any demanding graphics processing on it. I just watch movies and use web browsers and a terminal. I don't play graphically intense games on it. "With regards to security, the main issue is that X11 provides no isolation between applications, allowing them to listen…

Right, if you already have malware running on your system, all bets are off. However, I'm sure you're aware that large applications like Chromium have tons of vulnerabilities, which is why they come with a sandbox to protect against exploitation. X11 is one of the biggest holes in these sandbox solutions. Replacing X11 with Wayland would plug this hole. I'd argue that security is something the average user cares about.

Re: Firefox 64 Released

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Post by Nadya »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #315
PavlovsCat wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No sarcasm, and that question wasn't rhetorical either: How is a scrollbar that different from other input elements within webpages that can already be styled? And what do you mean by using non-default colors? User stylesheets would also include scrollbar colors anyway; do you mean just setting a background but no text color (assuming a default of black, which might not be black for the user)? Don't see how this coul…

Scrollbars aren't within webpages, they're browser chrome. Why not just let the webdev alter that too.

Aren't commonly within webpages. But they can be. They just often aren't because it is a confusing UX (because they almost never are.)

Example from Codepen: https://vgy.me/IBmcUz.png

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