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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by Kiro »

lisper wrote: post #296
11235813213455 wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

Seriously? You would sell your soul to the devil to save typing four extra characters?

If you think using Chrome is selling your soul to the devil I wonder what you think about me who is fully integrated in the Google ecosystem with Google Home and everything.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by kristerv »

11235813213455 wrote: post #292
eksemplar wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

Yeah this is the worst in firefox. I'm desperately trying to stick to firefox out of principle, but Chrome is just sooo much more comfy beacuse of like 3 features.

Firefox actually has 2 domain specific search-shortcut features, but both take time to set up and then is not intuitive at all. Chrome just blows it out of the water.

Also wtf - if I type "hello" and press enter in the search bar in FF, it puts a "www." in front and ".com" at the end.. like holy hell, if I knew the domain I'll write .com myself, it really is no problem. I even went ahead and googled for 15 minutes and disabled this in some deep settings somewhere, but it still does it when I press enter too fast... damnit, it frustrates me every single day.

I hope they see this and fix this very-frustratingly-obvious anti-UX behaviour..

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by mherrmann »

Chrome lost me when it started to force-login me to Chrome when signing into Gmail, thus sharing all my website visits with Google. I switched to FF two months ago and haven't looked back. FF is like Linux: less polished, but works, and you are in control. A fair tradeoff for me.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by feanaro »

mherrmann wrote: post #313

Chrome lost me when it started to force-login me to Chrome when signing into Gmail, thus sharing all my website visits with Google. I switched to FF two months ago and haven't looked back. FF is like Linux: less polished, but works, and you are in control. A fair tradeoff for me.

Less polished in what way?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by vatueil »

11235813213455 wrote: post #292
eksemplar wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

As others have mentioned and I believe you were referring to, Firefox does let you create bookmarks with keywords to accomplish the same thing.

Funnily enough, I've often seen Firefox users unaware that they can do the same with custom search keywords in Chrome, so the problem runs both ways.

As someone who uses these features in both Firefox and Chrome, I do think it would be nice if Firefox copied how Chrome automatically adds these search actions, and perhaps a bit of the UI polish too (like how Chrome's omnibox will recognize you're performing a keyword search and adapt accordingly). It doesn't make much of a difference for existing power users, but it could help new users discover and use the feature.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by lisper »

Kiro wrote: post #311
lisper wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? You would sell your soul to the devil to save typing four extra characters?

If you think using Chrome is selling your soul to the devil I wonder what you think about me who is fully integrated in the Google ecosystem with Google Home and everything.

At least in that case I can see what you might think you're getting out of the deal. But typing "thes" instead of "thesaurus"? Seriously?

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by ngokevin »

slyrus wrote: post #289

Alternative headline: Firefox market share greater than Edge, Safari, and Opera combined.

Or smaller than IE :0

Also remove the desktop filter and watch Safari jump up to like 20% and FF down to 4.5%. Usage of the Web on mobile is huge, and it's even bleaker for FF there.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by mherrmann »

feanaro wrote: post #314
mherrmann wrote: post #313

Chrome lost me when it started to force-login me to Chrome when signing into Gmail, thus sharing all my website visits with Google. I switched to FF two months ago and haven't looked back. FF is like Linux: less polished, but works, and you are in control. A fair tradeoff for me.

Less polished in what way?

The window and rendering is a bit more jittery. The UI is less slick. I do find static sites render faster in FF. But JS-heavy pages are (somewhat) faster in Chrome.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by lorenzhs »

Dunedan wrote: post #300
11235813213455 wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I like in chrome is search shortcuts, example I start typing "thes" then press TAB, then I'm brought directly to https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/hello (possibly with little configuration). I don't think Firefox has similar things, last time I checked we have to use bookmarks or something

In Firefox you can add a bookmark and set a keyword for that bookmark. If the URL of the bookmark contains "%s", it'll get replaced by everything you type in the URL bar after the keyword. For example I have a bookmark for Wikipedia with the keyword "wp". So when I type "wp Y Combinator" I end up on the Wikipedia page about Y Combinator. I really enjoy this feature and even catch myself regularly trying to use it on…

Yeah, but the indicator that you’re using such a bookmark when typing “wp Foo” in the address bar is really poor. When you use the OpenSearch search engine integration you can also set a keyword but it’s highlighted properly. Downside is that you need to enable the separate search bar to get the option to add a site’s OpenSearch provider when visiting it because the small looking glass gets a tiny plus you need to click.

I recently switched from chrome to Firefox but the search engine situation is something I’m not really happy about.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Post by feanaro »

eksemplar wrote: post #270
bjz_ wrote: post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I use Firefox for development, but I use safari (privately) and edge (professionally) for browsing, and see no real advantages to using either Firefox or Chrome for that. I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

> I think modern Firefox is a much better browser than Chrome though, but Mozilla certainly lost the PR war and to no fault but their own, because Firefox sure sucked for a long while.

This gets said often, but I've been using Firefox continually since 2003 and I've never noticed it sucking.

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