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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Here was my path - first three of the below were during college, then I dropped out before number 4. 1) Unpaid internship (3 months) 2) $10 an hour assistant marketing role (1.5 years) 3) $14 an hour marketing role (1.5 years) 4) $30 an hour marketing role (8 months) 5) $35 an hour marketing role (Much bigger budget, lots of opportunity to learn) (1.5 years) 6) $50 an hour (promotion from the above role, 2 years) 7)…

Could you describe what exactly your consulting role is like?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Wow, I'm actually shocked on seeing the low salaries on here. Having been on the hiring side for small projects (using mostly Upwork), I have had a really hard time finding quality for Maybe I'd have better luck hiring someone full time for $50k, and just fill the pipeline? Would love any thoughts on best moves here.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Throwaway. 2010-2014 in college. Contract work for a startup, approx 50 dollars per hour. 2015 worked full time for the startup, 100k salary no stock. 2016 moved to SV for FAANG company 1, negotiated well, 220k total comp. 2017 stayed at company 1. Signing bonus was very large, so total comp dropped to 190k depsite raise. 2018 moved to FAANG company 2. Negotiated well, total comp 300k. Roughly 45% increase per year.…

Which language(s)?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #269

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Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.

I got promoted to "senior" developer less than 6 months out of university because my employer wanted to inflate the credibility of his consulting business. Job titles aren't standardised and can be pretty meaningless between organisations.

That's my experience as well. In the first 6 months in my first job out of college the product manager started introducing me as the senior developer, and some years later while working for another company the project manager introduced me as the senior backend developer at a point where I had zero professional backend experience.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I'm an extreme outlier. No degree. Started coding as a child. Dropped out of college. United States (not in SV).

2000-2002 - 25k hardware technician / repair

2003-2005 - 45k web developer

2006 70k - biometrics/vision developer

2007 - 100k - 'Enterprise' developer

2008 - 105k

2010 - 120k

2011 - 190k - F500 developer (base+bonus)

2012 - 200k

2013 - 215k

2014 - 220k

2015 - 225k

2016 - 160k - restart in another field (passion)

2017 - 180k - try yet another passion field

2018 - 280k - (base) returned to enterprise-y work

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #228

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Depends of course where you are, but it sounds like you are getting underpaid. In London a senior engineer will get at least £60k (depending on what 'senior' means and how many currently hot languages you list on your CV). I know people in obscure parts of the country, with next to no tech scene, who aren't far off that. The real money in the UK is in contracting though, or go to the dark side and work in finance.

Perm roles are now (finally) getting better at competing with sky-high contracting rates. Every successive budget also makes contracting a slightly less lucrative situation.

The gap is getting smaller for certain contracts, but it's still huge.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #23

I think this is really interesting and glad OP posted it as a reference. I just assumed that everyone saves their digital paystubs and calculating precise salary at any point in ones career is trivial. I was surprised when OP was unsure of salary amounts or when precisely raises went into effect. While I think this is cool from a career planning perspective, I don’t think it’s very useful from OP’s aim of correcting…

> I just assumed that everyone saves their digital paystubs and calculating precise salary at any point in ones career is trivial. First off, not everyone gets digital paystubs. It depends on how the company manages payroll, and whether they keep it in-house or subcontract it. Second, even if you do get a digital paystub, it is frequently a manual operation to download and save it outside of the payroll system. I per…

Good point. Years ago, I would just scan/photo and save significant stubs like new job, change, etc.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #103

I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

So you make 40 times more now than at the start of your career? Thats insane! I make a very good salary in Sweden and I've only doubled my salary in my 10 year long career.

In my limited experience (hiring some Bangalore-based developers, working for a US-based company, we have a full office in both locations), this isn't all that uncommon.

Salaries can start VERY low. Shockingly so, at least to me. And they ramp up quickly. The unfortunate side-effect is frequent job-hopping - it's easier to get a big raise by moving (not that dissimilar to the US, just orders of magnitude more impactful).

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #245

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Sorry i didn't say that all those figures are Before Taxes. I live in northen italy in a place where living is not too much expensive.

As a local could you tell me: is it true what they say that work in IT in northern Italy is mainly in Milan and maaaaybe in Verona and Ferrara? I wanted to move to Bologna, but I had trouble finding any interesting offers.

I don't know about Verona and Ferrara but i can confirm that IT work (in northern Italy) is mainly in Milan. But to live in Milan is quite expensive. You can also check job offers in Turin.

Be also aware that in Italy there are mostly consulting firms, and really few product companies, even if in the last years something is changing...

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