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Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by cromwellian »

tinkerteller wrote: post #160

This is great stuff and chance to see Google’s famous TGIFs. Also rare chance to hear Larry Page’s changed voice. It’s beyond shocking however that leaders of search engine business so openly preaching their political views. Given this is at the highest level, one cannot have confidence that things would remain bias free. I would have expected these leaders to make sure they keep their political views to themselves j…

Google has vast numbers of minority and immigrant employees, do you expect them to have no opinion when their own employees are afraid of the government discriminating against them?

This isn't political bias against conservative economic ideas, or even classic social conservatism, this is bias against racism and bigotry. And were they wrong? Two years later, everything people had been worrying about in this TGIF got worse.

Every few weeks some new dog whistle is blown.

There are some things which are just wrong, that if you're not a coward, you take a stand against. I hope any congressional testimony over this is combative, not milquetoast PR speak. Rather than spin, come right out and say: the company's values stand against racism and bigotry, and if Ted Cruz melts like a snowflake over it, so be it.

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Post by lanestp »

justaaron wrote: post #271

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

Civility? Yes, this comment reeks of that. I’m interested in what good you think you are doing with this kind of vitriol? Do you think it furthers your side of the argument? I can assure you that it does not.

“Deliberately destructive trolls” is interesting phrasing when held up against “roasted dead orphans.” If we owe no consideration to the former, you prove yourself such with the latter.

Re: Google’s first all-hands after 2016 election [video]

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Post by cromwellian »

randomposter44 wrote: post #89

Part of my decision for leaving Google was the insane left leaning bias within the company. I never outed myself as a conservative person because I've heard coworkers equate republicans to monsters.

Depends on what Republicans you're talking about, the classic Buckley, Jack Kemp, Milton Friedman style of conservative, who you can have intellectual disagreements over economic policy about, or today's nationalist, xenophobic, cult-of-personality Republicans, which I'd call Trumplicans, who have abandoned everything classical liberals stood for (free trade, immigration, against crony capitalism) and now actively enable an administration that literally threatens to intervene in markets and pick winners or create losers.

Or the people who burn their shoes and lose their minds every time someone (who is black) kneels at a football game. Those are the monsters.

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Post by nailer »

maxehmookau wrote: post #284

Brietbart is not journalism. It is a far-right propaganda outfit and its "work" has no place on a civilised forum such as HN.

Exactly how is this video 'far right propaganda'? The people talking are all Google executives. It's an hour long, there's no cuts or edits.

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Post by hef19898 »

tkmo wrote: post #301
threeseed wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The concern around Trump extends to close to 70% of the electorate according to recent polling. It isn’t isolated. And given Trump’s anti-immigrant stance Google executives being immigrants themselves would have every right to voice their concern.

Trump's stance is anti illegal immigrant which should not affect any Google execs. Re: approval ratings, its a moot point. Trump has enjoyed generally similar approval ratings to Obama (at most single digit percentage points lower) and ultimately won a free and fair election in a first world Republic. Having the leaders of a global monopoly megacorporation display this kind of disdain for the elected leader of the co…

Electorate college? Gerrymandering?

And I hope you are not seriously stating that a company cannot have political views opposed to the government? It's either a democratic election (to have a legitimate government) which implies different opinions regardless of majorites or not (so that nobody can oppose the government). You cannot have it both ways.

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Post by liftbigweights »

justaaron wrote: post #271

I should bloody well hope that anyone with a brain has a bias against astro-turf fake-populist wanna-be dictators. We owe no consideration to deliberately-destructive trolls seeking to undermine all notions of civility and social progress merely to feed Rupert Murdochs empire of faeces further banquet tables full of roasted dead orphans. Breitbart, OTOH, is precisely a harmful entity seeking to undermine all that is…

Do you realize you sound exactly like the people you are attacking. After you've calmed down, try reading your comment. It's just amazing seeing people ruled by emotion rather than rationality.

Also, why are so many foreigners so obsessed over US politics. I swear every top political comment on every social media platform seems to be from a brit or a canadian.

Everything is going to be okay. Trump is going to be gone in 2 or 6 years at most. You'll have another president to be angry about. Trump isn't the end of the world.

I thought people couldn't get any crazier after obama's election and the birther/tea party movement. Boy was I proved wrong.

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Post by test001only »

When people/organisation are categorised in to buckets of left and right leaning, it becomes difficult to have a clear conversion. What happened here was a president was elected whose election promises would negatively affect employees of the organisation. They were right in trying to comfort their employees, especially being Google who are famously known to pamper their employees. This is not being left or right, this is just being human.

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Post by cromwellian »

Seems no one understands Popper's Paradox. Lots of talk about it being unfair that a workplace is intolerant of people who are intolerant. There are just some values that are not negotiable for a modern, civilized, homogeneous society. We're not talking about debates about the level of social welfare, or regulation, we're talking about common decency of treating people equally, regardless of gender, sexuality, or ethnic origin.

There's no reason anyone has to respect ethno-nationalist views against immigrants.

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Post by nailer »

jayd16 wrote: post #99
nodesocket wrote: post #84

I find it a bit absurd when I hear pundits and media types claim that liberal bias doesn't exists in silicon valley tech companies (top to bottom). As somebody who lived in San Francisco for five plus years, I can firmly attest it is more than bias. It's utter disdain, hatred, and prejudice. Just look at how James Damore was handled it should be clear that diversity of thought and individualism is not accepted. It's…

I don't think anyone claims Californians working in SF aren't liberal. What you really mean is you want to be a mildly bigoted in peace and/or demand attention because historically disadvantaged groups are getting attention without any backlash while simultaneously telling others to get over their own insecurities. When people say you have a persecution complex you think its a liberal agenda. Case in point, no one th…

> What you really mean is you want to be a mildly bigoted

Please don't tell anyone else 'what they really mean'.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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