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Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #58

As a long, long time user of Reddit, it has been quite saddening to see its descent into the shallow, ultra-toxic husk of a corporate entity that it is today. I'm not surprised by its popularity; it's a headline-surfers paradise, one in which you get feel good points for displays of virtue or shitposting easily digested content in an era of unparalleled narcissism and shortened attention spans. All is not lost though…

I am also a long time reddit user, 10 or so years at this point. It's not obvious to me that reddit is particularly different than it was in the past. There's just more of it now.

If you browse /r/all/top?t=day it is VERY different from a few years ago

I remember the first slide to anarchy was vague titles. "This." or "Good boy" etc would never be upvoted. Instead you would have long descriptive titles that summarized the link.

Images became far more common to share, with imgur and then reddit providing hosting.

Subreddit politics got crazy between moderators of large subreddits and between admins and users when very questionable subreddits started popularizing.

US politics happened. Conspiracies and fake news and then The_Donald somehow taking over half of the entire front page.

I still love using reddit for the smaller communities, but to say it hasn't changed is so false. You can rewind and check out archives of the site from 10 years ago and you'll see.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your first phrase answers the second. Humor is only upvoted in HN if it provokes a wry smile.

Too busy changing the world for the better to smile.

s/changing the world for the better/chasing those sweet adtech dollars/g

Is anyone else cynical about this phrase?

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #15

Reddit works because it’s anonymous, information-dense and relatively ad-free. Change any one of those three and the user base will abandon you. It’s been Reddit’s dilemma since the beginning: you can’t monetize a toxic user base that has total freedom. Sure you can try to drive away the toxic users, but it turns out that those toxic users are also pretty influential in non-toxic aspects. I’m still skeptical of Reddi…

> Reddit works because it’s anonymous, information-dense and relatively ad-free. Reddit is none of those now. It's not anonymous ( they track your identity and feed it to the government ). You may be "anonymous" to fellow users, but not anonymous to authorities. It isn't information dense. It's propaganda dense. Almost all the content there now is government, media, ngo, etc propaganda. As for ads, check out the vide…

> Reddit is 80% government, politics and news propaganda

I don't think the list of top 50 subreddits [0] particularly supports that assertion.

[0] http://redditmetrics.com/top

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #58

As a long, long time user of Reddit, it has been quite saddening to see its descent into the shallow, ultra-toxic husk of a corporate entity that it is today. I'm not surprised by its popularity; it's a headline-surfers paradise, one in which you get feel good points for displays of virtue or shitposting easily digested content in an era of unparalleled narcissism and shortened attention spans. All is not lost though…

I'd like a reddit-like site that is more exclusive, it filters out the non-serious users with a yearly subscription fee of say $100.

I made an ad-free reddit alternative that has the option of super-liking a post to send $5 (minus paypal fees) to the author: https://www.vlnc.co/

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And for the majority of the large subs for a specific interest, they are astroturfed to hell and back. Much of the content you see on /r/all is likely corporate shilling with sock puppets controlling the promotion of the item and the comments within. There should be Moore's/ Poe's law for the correlation of the size and influence of a site to the amount of corporate influence on said site. As the natural user base gr…

>they are astroturfed to hell and back. Much of the content you see on /r/all is likely corporate shilling with sock puppets controlling the promotion of the item and the comments within. Is there any actual evidence of this as a widespread phenomenon? The /r/hailcorporate people are among the most annoying on Reddit.

I can't provide any evidence but I will say any company not utilising the opportunity are missing out big time and it's actually extremely easy to do.

Try this yourself - use imgur and upload some reaction gifs to an account so you can go back and see the view count later.

Don't spam the images but work your way through some comments sections from /all, find some comments you can use your reaction gif on and head back to imgur a few hours later. I expect you may be surprised just how many views that one link you posted got.

Comments get way more views than a picture because people will read a comment more often as they scroll past than people who click a link.

Now imagine you're someone who wants to promote an idea or a product. The amount of eyes that go over what you type into that comment box has the power to drive big traffic. Even just a few thousand views from one comment looking at or even just thinking about that product or idea on a large scale with barely any effort.

I can't prove it happens but I'm more than confident it does.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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No disrespect to Reddit, but that's __a lot__ of visitors + page views for what a fair percentage of the population might not be aware of (in a FB, etc. sort of way).

Maybe I'm not questioning Reddit's "fame" per se, but the validity of the algorithm that puts them at #3.

Perhaps it's just me?

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #94

The biggest value gain from Reddit, to me, is the ability to centralize effectively around different hobbies and activities. In the past, if you wanted to find an online community for a movie or a game, you had to find a forum for that community. Finding forums that are well managed and capture a good segment of the community is hard -- and Reddit just becomes a default place to look now. Let's say a new TV show star…

This is an interesting observation. In a podcast [0], Mark Zuckerberg states that his vision behind Facebook has always been to connect people. To make them part of a group as he stresses that every individual has a need for that at some point in life. He stresses that he wants to make this possible even for those with rare conditions that would require a group spread throughout the world. So enable them as they woul…

I turned off that interview when he said that. Saying his tool is designed to connect people, while missing how effective a tool it's been for dividing people is willfully ignorant at best.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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post #94

The biggest value gain from Reddit, to me, is the ability to centralize effectively around different hobbies and activities. In the past, if you wanted to find an online community for a movie or a game, you had to find a forum for that community. Finding forums that are well managed and capture a good segment of the community is hard -- and Reddit just becomes a default place to look now. Let's say a new TV show star…

This is an interesting observation. In a podcast [0], Mark Zuckerberg states that his vision behind Facebook has always been to connect people. To make them part of a group as he stresses that every individual has a need for that at some point in life. He stresses that he wants to make this possible even for those with rare conditions that would require a group spread throughout the world. So enable them as they woul…

> their neighborhood would simply not have the correct prerequisites to form that group (i.e members).

Or: wouldn't have the right kind of lunatics in the numbers needed to form a sufficiently reverberant echo chamber.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"90% of Facebook’s daily active users access it via mobile" - https://thenextweb.com/facebook/2016/01/27/90-of-facebooks-d... And before you suggest that those users might still be using it on desktop more than on mobile: "Mobile advertising revenue represented approximately 91% of advertising revenue for the first quarter of 2018, up from approximately 85% of advertising revenue in the first quarter of 2017." - http…

That doesn't say whether they are using an app on mobile or just a mobile browser. The app is (was? I haven't used it in ages) a notorious energy-hog that will drain your battery.

Unfortunately I can't find numbers that break down mobile site vs. native app use.

Judging by how poorly maintained and how rarely updated the mobile site is, I think it's safe to assume that the vast majority of people are using the native apps, not the mobile site. Major features like the marketplace and video tabs are nowhere to be seen on the mobile site, for example. If the mobile sites were getting the bulk of users, Facebook would surely prioritize it.

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