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Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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tmh79 wrote: post #81
claudiulodro wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised Uber doesn't have their engineers set up 2FA for GitHub. Super simple to implement and require organization-wide[1] and would have prevented this. Then again, not storing credentials in GitHub would also have prevented this . . . [1] https://help.github.com/articles/requiring-two-factor-authen...

uber engineer here, we have 2fa set up for everything. Starting my day takes about 5 different 2fa checks (ssh access, aws, phabricator, team chat, etc)

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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by cdaringe »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #273
chakalakasp wrote: post #170

Man, I don't know if Uber is evil or if most tech companies are evil and Uber just doesn't drop the kind of money on PR strategery that an evil company need to drop in order to seem normal. But either way, holy cow does that company come off as toxic. They've completely revolutionized the drive-for-hire industry and all anyone ever hears about it what a D-bag their CEO is or how toxic and mysogonist their work enviro…

Magneto is pretty concerned with ethics and morality, I think Uber is more owned by Tony Stark on a particularly bad binge.

Tony is a changed man! He even voluntarily subjected himself to regulation. We need a new target.

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Post by pishpash »

stochastic_monk wrote: post #306
krelian wrote: post #277

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Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

Just yesterday, I got some serious flak for suggesting that changing one person in leadership wasn't enough to make them not evil. I'm sad to see just how bad this is/was, but I'm not one bit surprised.

This happened last year.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by leCapitalist »

stochastic_monk wrote: post #306
krelian wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uber is like the Donald Trump of corporations. It sets new ground in how openly vile you can be without any consequences. Just like Donald Trump the real danger is not in Uber itself but in whatever it will be that uses it as a role model.

Just yesterday, I got some serious flak for suggesting that changing one person in leadership wasn't enough to make them not evil. I'm sad to see just how bad this is/was, but I'm not one bit surprised.

The new CEO found out about this, publicly disclosed it then fired the people responsible. Seems like progress to me.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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misun78 wrote: post #308
stevenj wrote: post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

Uber employee chiming in - while I entirely sympathize with HN's frustrations around our ethics and can't really justify our actions around this data breach, it is very much worth noting that Lyft would not exist were it not for Uber's extremely aggressive practices. There were/are far too many protectionist policies at play at most locales that -- not out of pure coincidence -- needed a company as aggressive as Uber…

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Post by tuxracer »

_m8fo wrote: post #60
stevenj wrote: post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

You'll find that thinking like that will only lead to misery at worst and hypocrisy at best. For example, if you live in the United States (though this logic applies to any country, really), you'll be interested to know that the US holds the world record for the amount innocent civilians killed [1]. [1] https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-holds-the-world-record-of-... EDIT: I realize I sound far more judge-y than inten…

If you're not willing to restructure your entire life to the point of renouncing citizenship of the country you were born into then you shouldn't ever make any choices based on moral principles whatsoever? uh.. what??

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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misun78 wrote: post #308
stevenj wrote: post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

Uber employee chiming in - while I entirely sympathize with HN's frustrations around our ethics and can't really justify our actions around this data breach, it is very much worth noting that Lyft would not exist were it not for Uber's extremely aggressive practices. There were/are far too many protectionist policies at play at most locales that -- not out of pure coincidence -- needed a company as aggressive as Uber…

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Post by ringaroundthetx »

emodendroket wrote: post #240
ringaroundthetx wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well look at this case as an individual circumstance: The US federal government decided 30 years ago that it was going to attempt to prevent some kinds of transactions from being part of the global economic growth. Kinds of transactions that were always here, and always willing to be part of the global economic growth. It decided to use other people's money to attempt to enforce this blockade, at great expense, for p…

By this logic, we should encourage murder, since it's always been around and sudden, violent loss of life can create jobs.

Anti-money laundering laws don't pretend there is a victim, they attempt to discourage behavior by regulating an intermediary.

They also fail at it while ensnaring otherwise law abiding citizens in the dragnet.

So there is no logic to extrapolate to murders, where there is a victim from the activity of murdering.

AML via the Bank Secrecy Act, Patriot Act and other regulations was a swing and a miss, just looking at the evidence alone. Cash transactions over $10,000 were supposed to be reported, to stop terrorists, and the 1 BILLION of organized drug money that HSBC cleared is the equivalent of a dozen terrorists being financed per day, since 9/11.

Excepts its just people with a little extra cash that get jailed from these reporting laws.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Post by randlet »

misun78 wrote: post #308
stevenj wrote: post #4

Ever since Susan Fowler told her story about what happened to her at Uber, I have only used Lyft, and have encouraged all my friends to do the same. I plan to never use Uber again.

Uber employee chiming in - while I entirely sympathize with HN's frustrations around our ethics and can't really justify our actions around this data breach, it is very much worth noting that Lyft would not exist were it not for Uber's extremely aggressive practices. There were/are far too many protectionist policies at play at most locales that -- not out of pure coincidence -- needed a company as aggressive as Uber…

Are you saying the end justify the means? The problem is that over and over and over we see companies breaking the rules, reaping massive rewards as a result of unethical practices, saying "sorry" and then carrying on with no real consequences. It sets a horrible precedent and unless people start being punished instead of rewarded(!!!) for their actions nothing will change.
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