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"it is nearly-impossible for any actor to block access to this content because it is replicated around the network automatically, using peer-to-peer encrypted connections that would be very hard to identify and block at the ISP level. Maybe China could do it, but Spain definitely cannot." How would China do it?
I'm genuinely curious which part ipfs solves here? Given that it's still accessed via browser/domain wouldn't they just block the dns or even ip? In which case this is no more resilient than say multiple domains and dns entries and proxying on from there to a central database (which could be run in a jurisdiction over which Spain has little control and which they would have to discover first anyways)
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I was basing it on what the parent commenter said. I can't really tell if he's in the wrong or you are because, as you said, I haven't looked it up myself. Even with your version my fairness argument stands. How is it fair that a Catalan expat isn't allowed to vote, and an Andalusian that might be there just for a few months is? Expats are certainly allowed to vote in General elections.
I'm a Catalan expat and I voted already from where I am. There's a census of Spaniards living abroad. If you were there you could sign up to vote.
But I grant that "you're allowed to vote if you can vote in the General elections as a resident of one of the four Catalan provinces" is probably as fair as one can practically get when designing this.
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This guy was arrested in Valencia: https://github.com/GrenderG Tried to find a Twitter thread from his lawyer, but no luck. Check this out: http://www.levante-emv.com/comunitat-valenciana/2017/09/22/p... He was also taken to police premises, put on the phone with someone from Madrid and released. Indicted for a crime here couldn't commit as he's not a civil servant. Also the judge authorised to get his online account…
Thanks for the links! From them, he was asked whether he was under contract by the Generalitat to do it. If they can't find any evidence of such contract, I expect the charges will be dismissed and his stuff restored. I don't think the argument that he's not allowed to do it, by his own will with his own funds, will hold in court; if I understand the law correctly. I guess at most he might be in trouble regarding the…
I also expect charges dismissed. A detail about his stuff is that he didn't get a receipt (as per his lawyer that was not yet present), so his things were (in his lawyer's words) "effectively stolen by the police".
This happened before the "where to vote" part of the referendum site existed. It was just an informational static site.
Many other have been called to declare with "no specific crime" in the judge notifications also for mirroring the website, including at least one member of the Catalan branch of the Pirate Party. This has been seen by some as harassment to avoid more people mirroring the website.
Under Spanish Constitution, supreme law in Spain, the right to determine the territory of Spain belongs to all Spaniards (article 2).
What some people claim as "democracy" or "the right to vote" is actually removing this right from the rest of Spaniards.
Aside from other claims and whether there are political or historical reasons, the voting has been declared illegal by the "Tribunal Constitucional", highest court in Spain. End of story, it's illegal, period. And Spain (mostly judges and police forces) are trying to defend the law.
Now a quick note on the alleged economical facts: no, Catalonia does not contribute 16 billion to the rest of the country, it's actually 2,4 billion (this is what Catalonia published last year). This is called "solidarity", and it is what contributes to other regions in Spain to grow and benefit the country as a whole. Madrid is also a significant net contributor. On the other hand, Spain holds 55 billion in debt from Catalonia, which is unable to finance by itself on international debt markets. So numbers don't add that quickly as it has been said here.
"In the where to vote? page, you are prompted to enter some of your details: DNI (national id), Birth date, Zip code" Wait a second, can someone from the area explain this? Why on earth do they need your ID number just to tell you where to vote? In my country (UK) 99% of the time all you need is a postcode and you can be told your voting place. (I say 99% because there are a few postcodes that are split across differ…
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Ok. By the way, can I get your crystal ball? There's this lottery thing...
Your mocking argument is that only magicians can expect people to maintain their views?
Aran has its rights explicitly recognised by Catalan Parliament, including their self determination rights, right now: https://cat.elpais.com/cat/2015/01/23/catalunya/1422013790_5...
Rahola hasn't been a politician for decades. ERC is much better than it was with her and Angel Colom.
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A 1min Google search gives: TÍTULO PRELIMINAR Artículo 1. Andalucía. 1. Andalucía, como nacionalidad histórica y en el ejercicio del derecho de autogobierno que reconoce la Constitución, se constituye en Comunidad Autónoma en el marco de la unidad de la nación española y conforme al artículo 2 de la Constitución. http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/html/especiales/NuevoGobierno... Unless that's not the most current estatu…
Not sure if you're native Spanish speaker or not, but nacionalidad is nación when talking about a group of people (simplifying as typing from mobile) The count is of about 30 different articles. Here's a comment from El País (hardly pro-indy or pro-catalan) about it: https://elpais.com/diario/2007/07/05/espana/1183586424_85021...
La Constitución se fundamenta en la indisoluble unidad de la Nación española, patria común e indivisible de todos los españoles, y reconoce y garantiza el derecho a la autonomía de las nacionalidades y regiones que la integran y la solidaridad entre todas ellas.
The Andalusian estatuto almost uses the exact same words, "nacionalidad historica" in the "unidad de la nación española". Can hardly be considered against the Constitution. Agreed?
One can argue that "Cataluña es una nación" is a valid interpretation of the Constitution (I won't, because I'm not a constitutional lawyer and I don't think you are either), but you can't really use the Andalusian estatuto to support that the Tribunal Constitucional gives inconsistent rulings. (And has the Andalusian one even been challenged? I don't think the Tribunal Constitucional can strike down laws that haven't been brought to them).
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I'm a Catalan expat and I voted already from where I am. There's a census of Spaniards living abroad. If you were there you could sign up to vote.
Ok that's better than if only currently-residing people were allowed to vote. The argument stands for Catalans living elsewhere in Spain. But I grant that "you're allowed to vote if you can vote in the General elections as a resident of one of the four Catalan provinces" is probably as fair as one can practically get when designing this.
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Ask them about it :-) but I could guess their logic: - They don't want people to vote. - Maybe if it's suspended you should refrain from going on with it until there's a ruling. - They know what how they want the ruling to be, so they act like it was done already. They're just working on making it legally sound in the meanwhile. Choose whichever you prefer, all those are guesses. The fact is that there's no ruling an…
Luckily all court orders in Spain (like in most or all western countries) are explicitly reasoned in the order itself, so there isn't a need to ask the judge or guess. The people getting served those orders can publish the legal reasoning given.
Also, some of the operations these days are not actually ordered by TSJC but by a separate judge using an old (almost forgotten) case: http://m.huffingtonpost.es/2017/09/20/el-juez-ha-ordenado-la...
And during the first days of sites blocked no telco provided the court order they were in theory served. In fact, not all the telcos are blocking the sites.
So yeah, western democracy and all that. It all smells incredibly fishy and ad-hoc.