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Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…

> Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm looking forward to Matrix eating all of their lunches. There absolutely no reason to have competing standards in this space. A horrible duplication of effort.

A horrible duplication of effort vs waste of time getting competing organisations to agree on standards.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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I wish people used IRC instead of all of these proprietary tools. I don't love the Slack client, xchat is much better.

Agreed, there is little that Slack gives me IRC doesn't, a good client and I'm set.

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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Not being available on-prem continues to show how poorly Atlassian treats its enterprise customers. * No feature parity * No pre-built packages or support for configuration / infrastructure management - everything must be packaged completely from scratch, without recommended package specifications or Dockerfiles etc. to build off of. Nope - "here's a tar.gz. Have fun!" * No proper enterprise support and no access to…

That sums up my experience with Atlassian products that are self-hosted. They are essentially shooting themselves in the foot, especially with Customers that have to have the service run on site or on a air gapped network.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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How the hell did we go from realizing massive enterprise software was a bad deal to suddenly embracing it all over again? Not that stuff like Oracle and Salesforce ever went away, but I seriously don't understand why small companies buy into the Faustian bargain of "yes please vendor, I'd love to be in a position where I'm tied to your company forever, that sounds great".

I mean, what's the alternative? Roll your own software?

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Check out the Stride FAQ: https://confluence.atlassian.com/stride-documentation/faq-st... > Starting soon, we will begin to upgrade all HipChat Cloud teams to Stride. HipChat Cloud will continue to work as it does today until your team upgrades to Stride. After upgrading, HipChat Cloud will remain in 'read-only' mode so that you can reference your API configuration in HipChat Cloud and receive integration notificatio…

Can't find any info about a datacenter edition, only the cloud. But if hipchat is going away in cloud, then that is going to mean were not going to see any new features in hipchat datacenter...

Honestly my current company moved away from Hipchat datacenter edition to Rocket.chat. As long as they don't kill Jitsi-meet, I think we're good...

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Twist, by the makers of Todoist, is another take on work chat. https://twistapp.com/

I really like the idea of twist and it seems to work better in the trial we did. But it had some shortcomings 1. No linux client 2. UI/UX is not as polished as slack 3. Can't paste images from clipboard 4. Doesn't support webhooks which means that service integrations are almost nonexistent

No on-perm option either.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Chat breaks the flow, flow is necessary for cohesive elegant solutions. If we develop under a state of distraction, we end up making bulldozer-code. Furthermore, chat is not high quality communication. It is mostly junk comms. If we wanted to encourage communication that moved the organization forward, we would have a structured medium that would automatically populate a knowledgebase. Chat is not that medium. Chat i…

> Chat breaks the flow, Until I encounter a problem, switch into chat, and find that someone else already solved that problem and it was archived by the chat system. Flow maintained. My chat apps run on a separate monitor that is purposefully not within my visual range of the monitors used when I'm coding.

Then that's asynchronous messaging. Like email.

The thing I hate is the opposite. When I'm told off for not replying to a message. Ergo need to keep it in visual range and stop what I'm doing on each message. Even if it's an inane broadcast from a team member.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Agreed, there is little that Slack gives me IRC doesn't, a good client and I'm set.

Not having to manage a server, better history searching, better ux for less technical users, better user metadata, voice and video calling, and lots of other things. I prefer IRC, but the benefits for a business should be pretty clear for anyone not extremely stuck on seeming like the cool IRC guy in the office.

> Not having to manage a server

Seems odd you would want to have you're internal company discussions hosted on a server outside your control. It's especially relevant to companies outside the USA who might not want to have their data under US law.

I wouldn't recommend IRC for office communication. XMPP is probably the better tool.

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