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Re: Android Oreo

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Would be nice if they added a switch to disable connecting to open wifi networks. Or at least to realize that the wifi is connected but its waiting for a sign in so internet traffic should still be routed through 4g.

This "WiFi assist" feature exists on iPhone, but there were quite a few complaints from unexpected cellular data charges, including a class action lawsuit [1].

[1] https://9to5mac.com/2015/10/24/apple-wi-fi-assist-lawsuit/

Re: Android Oreo

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There's no risk. They talked to Nabisco, said, "Hey we wanna call the next OS 'Oreo', coo?" And Nabisco said, "Ok." Maybe money was paid one way or the other. Or not. What restrictions are you imagining?

Even with negotiations, If a engineer said in a Google youtube talk "Oreo is Americas favorite android," they could set themselves up for trademark infringement. If Google had a line in a blog post that said, "It's better than real Oreos", they could likely be sued. Oreo would not like Google saying either of these things. So Oreo needed to make up legal documents to map out all the things Google is allowed to say ab…

Licensing a trademark means not having to worry about such fine-grained details. There's no reason anybody would have a problem with "Oreo is Americas favorite android" What is there to sue over? The damn thing is called "Oreo"

Same with your other example. That line is clearly humor, and keeps the cookie brand's name in people's minds.

I think you're overthinking all of this.

Re: Android Oreo

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Not saying that everything else is bad, but one thing that strikes me is how much they have run out of interesting things now that they had to use fillers[1] like: Tooltips Support for tooltips (small popup windows with descriptive text) for views and menu items. Normally, this would be relegated to a git changelog in the support library. But this is on the global marketing landing page. I like to imagine a fictional…

To be fair, I have an iPhone and I'm still waiting for the "remotely sane text selection" feature to ship. Just in case you think this is hyperbole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhWz7rMj56Y

Re: Android Oreo

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"Auto-connects you to high quality open WiFi and secures your connection with a VPN back to Google."

Hmmmm. So Google can have even more of your data.

Re: Android Oreo

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post #168

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The sad thing is that it shouldn't be on Google to force them. It should be Google to enable them and the users to "force" them. They have argably been enabled for a while, but Treble is making it even easier. Hopefully this pushes the needle over the line for at least some OEMs/teclos.

In Germany there are quite a few stores still selling budget Android 4.4 and 5.1 devices, which people keep on buying.

It seems people have made their choice they don't care. If they cared about updates they wouldn't be buying Android.

Re: Android Oreo

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I absolutely hate those emoji. It's the gradient and outlines, it looks like bad enterprise design. The flat blobs were great.

Yep, new emojis look absolutely awful. They are so out of touch with what their customers want. It's like the emojis were made by some robot or algorithm that is trying to optimize the wrong parameters. I mean, just look at this comparison: http://i.imgur.com/apqo9Ry.png

They're not out of touch with what their customers want. Many of them didn't like them because of the whole "Android is cheap" dilemma (which is BS). The users asked and they got. The people who did like them are a very small, specific, yet vocal group of people.

Re: Android Oreo

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post #194

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Isn't that one of the points of the new emojis, though? That unlike the previous ones, they're compatible with what other systems use.

If emoji are in Unicode, why can't I choose how to represent then? Isn't that the job of the font? If you want total control over what the recipient sees, send an image. It would be like if a webpage requested Helvetica and you are using Linux the text simply wouldn't render.

> If you want total control over what the recipient sees, send an image.

Is this for real? You rather people have to stop using emojis and send images in their stead, than the different platforms give them the same meaning?

Re: Android Oreo

#320
post #168

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In Germany there are quite a few stores still selling budget Android 4.4 and 5.1 devices, which people keep on buying.

Same is in Bulgaria. And when you ask them "Hey actual version is 7.0. Why you use outdated OS with vulnerability? How you buy that devices?" They told "I have seen 7.0 there was nothing new." But no one want to get computer with Windows 95 (or 98) anymore. Just Android 4.4 is "OK".

There are no cheap windows 95 computers where everything works on the market. Android 4.4 does do everything people need (like running whatsapp), and the devices are out there to buy.

Security vulnerabilities? Nobody was ever affected by those (at least in the social circles of the people buying the devices), so why should they care?

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