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Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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Could someone write a whitehat worm or virus to get into all those vulnerable Windows systems and close the door behind them by patching the hole?

Software virus vaccines - I like it. Can’t believe I’ve never run across the concept before. Must be a thing, no?

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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post #177

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They don't need to deploy 0days if the vendor (willingly or unwillingly) cooperates. Also Microsoft began to heavily spy onto Windows users as part of normal operation making it difficult to impossible to fully opt out.

I don't understand how that would be possible. Such a change would be detected and very loudly discussed, making it pretty useless. There would be very little positive gain yet a whole lot of negative blowback from doing such a thing.

MS engineers can login to your machine and run programs / download documents. There also is some keylogger that sends data back without warning you. I can't remember which bits you can turn off, which bits got backported to 8/7 without warning, etc.

To make a long story short: From what anyone can tell, there is no way for consumers to obtain a version of windows that has security patches and has the ability to run with sane privacy settings. There is an acceptable version called Windows LTSB, but you have to pirate it.

This has been discussed ad nauseum on HN and elsewhere.

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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Maersk is down. Their main site says: Maersk IT systems are down We can confirm that Maersk IT systems are down across multiple sites and business units due to a cyber attack. We continue to assess the situation. The safety of our employees, our operations and customer's business is our top priority. We will update when we have more information.[1] Maersk is the largest shipping company in the world. 600 ships, with…

Great. Maybe we can finally put a price on lack of security protocol.

My company is actively helping enterprise companies and cyber insurers do just this.

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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Any use of a zero-day risks burning it, and this was one of NSA's most potent zero-days. I imagine they used it rarely and wisely; probably trying other exploits first.

And so now it's in the hands of people who have no such foresight. Which means soon it will be mitigated. Which means that despite all the pain right now, in the long run Wikileaks actually may end up having kind of helped humanity.

Wikileaks was not involved, they're securely posting CIA documents.

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That's not true. When an exploit shows up on a computer, "How did it get there?" is often the hardest question. There's no way to know short of capturing it in a lab environment. If you're talking about "at scale" being "the entire world," then yes. But usually the NSA tends to target their operations regionally, e.g. Iran.

Any use of a zero-day risks burning it, and this was one of NSA's most potent zero-days. I imagine they used it rarely and wisely; probably trying other exploits first.

>and this was one of NSA's most potent zero-days.

Says who? We have no idea what they're sitting on, even our guesses come from terrible data.

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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post #294

Could someone write a whitehat worm or virus to get into all those vulnerable Windows systems and close the door behind them by patching the hole?

Software virus vaccines - I like it. Can’t believe I’ve never run across the concept before. Must be a thing, no?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-worm

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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post #83

Is anyone aware of an entity that attempts to objectively quantify the economic impact of an event like this (ransoms paid, data lost, labor hours lost, new security costs, etc)?

I wouldn't say new security is a cost - unless it's fake security, like antiviruses.

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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It is basically WannaCry without the kill switch. It is using the same exploits (EternalBlue). Not some recent zero-day, but sloppy patching.

Seems like there is a kill switch: https://twitter.com/PTsecurity_UK/status/879779707075665922

Originally found by: https://twitter.com/0xAmit/status/879768194545836032

Re: Another Ransomware Outbreak Is Going Global

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Great. Maybe we can finally put a price on lack of security protocol.

OSHA violation in 2025: operator was not using a deterministic operating system

what you are suggesting has grave realities for those who cannot or do not want to mess with formal verification techniques. This is the future of computing and a lot of people will be left behind once this catches on.
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