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Re: Chrome Won

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Post by nsomaru »

aerovistae wrote: post #261
kalleboo wrote: post #134

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What do you expect people to be doing on the train? Contributing to emacs?

Well, personally I read books. I think I learn more and remember more from the books than I or they do from social media feeds, which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense. I don't ask that everyone read books, god forbid, but it would be nice if people weren't using their phones to put themselves into hibernate nearly all of the time. The phrasing of…

> which I think are a lot like putting your mind on hibernate to get from point A to point B in a temporal sense.

I was interested to find that in India, things are named in a way that brings out little points like this. For example, Indians call the little snacks you can buy on trains (like roasted, spiced peanuts) 'timepass.' A way to put the mind on hibernate and pass the time until the next desirable experience, presumably.

Maybe that's just what people want most of the time? The world can't always be the way we'd like it to be, and we're just passing time in a way that takes minimal effort. To get to the next desirable experience.

For most, the phone is where they go when a situation becomes uncomfortable or unfavourable. It's easier to do that than meet and correct the situation (if it's correctable at all). Or learn to see beauty in the mundane.

We need to build a culture of reasoned, purposeful existence, rather than one that is constantly buckling to the whims and fancies of our immediate demands.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by ekianjo »

Turing_Machine wrote: post #88
MBCook wrote: post #61

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The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to. I definitely run into sites that only work on chrome and not in any other browser. In my opinion chrome isn't doing a good job either. It's a massive energy hog and waste more CPU than it needs to. Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it…

"The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to." "Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again." -- Gandalf

Great Tolkien quote.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by ekianjo »

campuscodi wrote: post #265
zacmps wrote: post #87

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Chrome is improving on the resource usage front. It's far from perfect but it's getting better. As for privacy you could use the open source chromium, there's a fork somewhere which has all the Google removed.

"getting better" ?!?! Chrome using less resources than Firefox and IE was their sales pitch. Now they've become what they made fun of, while Firefox is smooth as a baby's butt.

No firefox actually uses more and more memory after each.build. check the stats available, the trend is very clear even in Firefox.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by masklinn »

microcolonel wrote: post #299
MBCook wrote: post #61

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The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to. I definitely run into sites that only work on chrome and not in any other browser. In my opinion chrome isn't doing a good job either. It's a massive energy hog and waste more CPU than it needs to. Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it…

> Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it comes from a company that is notorious for wanting to know everything about you. Are you suggesting that Chrome gathers data about you? Because unless you tick that box (which they show pretty prominently) it doesn't. It doesn't by default in most linux distribution packages. > Unlike IE I don't know if you've been following, but Microsoft is now the king of knowing everything ab…

> Microsoft made box-model: border-box

No. Microsoft had a non-standard box model which was an utter pain in the ass, regardless of their box model being more sensible than everybody else's in theory[0] (and ultimately standardised as an option circa 2010) having to code for a single standard documented box-model is way the fuck easier than coding for two different box models.

Also it's box-sizing not box-model.

[0] because in practice MSIE's layout engine was a buggy pile of shit

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by nsomaru »

Joeri wrote: post #259
aerovistae wrote: post #16

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I have secretly held this opinion for years. 4 out of 5 times that I look over someone's shoulder at their phone on the train, they're rapidly scrolling through a feed of photos, memes, and emote-filled status updates, endlessly. It scares me, to be honest. I wonder where this tendency in people will lead in the very long run, particularly when you consider the ideas suggested by companies like Neuralink. It brings B…

I've been taking public transportation from before the era people had their smartphones with them. What I used to see where people reading tabloid newspapers, celebrity magazines, or cheap novels; here and there the rare person who was reading something interesting and insightful, and most people staring out of the window with their eyes glazed over. What I see now is lots of instagram, snapchat, facebook and mobile…

> What amuses me is when I see someone reading an actual physical book. It is so rare, and it is almost every time someone trying to be hip.

Reading a book is an almost entirely introverted activity. How is the motivation to be hip going to be enough to sustain one's attention across the length of an entire book?

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by keybits »

The only thing preventing me from switching from Chrome to Firefox on the desktop is poor support for multiple profiles. Chrome's 'People' feature is essential for my workflow.

(I know you can launch multiple Firefox profiles, but it's awkward at best.)

On Android, Firefox is my favorite browser. So much better than Chrome. Thank you Mozilla :-) Now please make using multiple profiles on the desktop as easy as Chrome does.

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by dEnigma »

chx wrote: post #201
MBCook wrote: post #61

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The problem is we're moving extremely fast to a chrome only world. If it wasn't for corporate sites and the success of the iPhone chrome would probably be dominating the way IE used to. I definitely run into sites that only work on chrome and not in any other browser. In my opinion chrome isn't doing a good job either. It's a massive energy hog and waste more CPU than it needs to. Unlike IE and FireFox and Safari it…

Try http://www.linksys.com/us/special-deals-and-refurbished/c/Re... buying a refurbished router from Linksys with anything but IE. When you click Guest Checkout your cart will be empty. Dead end.

Works fine for me in Firefox Nightly

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by drdaeman »

baby wrote: post #274
cies wrote: post #63

So Mozilla lost Firefox OS. And their browser share is smaller then Chrome, and then it was, but still top tier and winning from M$. I'm much less pessimistic. Besides a cross platform and extensible browser we see also the following coming out of Mozilla: * Rust, a modern low-level programming language with cutting edge "safety" build in at zero runt time cost, luring many system programmers. * Servo, tomorrow brows…

Let's not forget that Firefox also has Tree Style Tabs, which for power users is the good reason not to use Chrome and use Firefox instead.

Better say "had". They'll disappear in some months, unless you stick with ESR (which has expiry date, AFAIK in 2018Q2)

Re: Chrome Won

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Post by Markoff »

_b8r0 wrote: post #256

Chrome didn't win. Android did. The proliferation of Android devices with Chrome is where that popularity is coming from. Ironically, had FirefoxOS been a success, we'd probably see a very different graph. Safari shows up for the same reason, just a different platform. As for a turnaround, I'm using Firefox to type this. It's easy to think desktops don't matter in a world of tablets, phones and mobile devices but the…

Firefox on Android is just slowest browser you can try, simple as that, everything else is excuse. tried many browsers recently and without hesitation Firefox is slowest out of all and that's not some completely budget device but SD808 with 3GB RAM, can't imagine how it's running on some budget phone
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