The Mac Pro Lives • Hacker News Board

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by maccard » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:51 PM UTC

ctrl-j wrote: post #268

SippinLean wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying. I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware. Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps…

> It's annoying, but not that annoying. I dunno, I've done all kinds of stuff to my windows 10 machine to keep Candy Crush Soda from reinstalling itself. Yet every few weeks/months that King garbage ends up on my start menu. I use windows 10 because I'm a .NET developer and a gamer. If I could use OSX on my desktop instead, and have access to the same steam games - I can't think of a reason I would stay. > Less clutt…

> I dunno, I've done all kinds of stuff to my windows 10 machine to keep Candy Crush Soda from reinstalling itself. Yet every few weeks/months that King garbage ends up on my start menu.

Another anecdote, I right clicked and clicked "unpin from start" and never saw it again.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by ge96 » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:51 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Personally I want the Apple hardware, but would love to run 3 operating systems as I've never used Apple OS before. But am in love with the Macbook Air concept, seems the new Macbook Pros make the Macbook Air unnecessary. I mean they're insanely thin! The display, oh my god... not sure about those keys though.

I bought this Samsung Chromebook 2 to test out a 13.3" laptop size and the keys were close to being "counter sunk" into the frame (not really but they were noticeably low) and seeing one of the new Macbook Pro's in person at a store I was like "WTF is up with those keys."

Yeah I love the software optimization giving to long battery life on Apple's behalf but the whole "gaming on Windows, and software like CAD/Solidworks on Windows" I don't know. As I said run three operating systems as Linux is my primary OS to develop on. I'm not looking forward to learning Apple OS, at least Visual Studio Code is on there.

I'm kind of dumb though in some ways, I keep thinking "If I have a computer like a Macbook Air I can develop on the go" but I'm most productive on my desk, two monitor, desktop. But I want to get setup for a moving/traveling digital nomad lifestyle so one device and barely any possessions would be great, particularly in the event of theft my device is outdated/protected enough that it will destroy itself and I can replace it relatively easily... but that's far from my current situation in life as a mere peasant.

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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by bradleyankrom » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:51 PM UTC

SonicSoul wrote: post #308

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I love OSX but never understood why people pay so much for those apple displays. we use them at work and they suuuuuck. super heavy, can't adjust height, can't put it in portrait mode which is .. I don't know useful 40% of the time, glares like a mofo, and cost 2x-3x similar quality displays from not Apple. Is the look of them that desirable? i finally switched for same reso Dell units on my desk and really happy abo…

also, they run really warm... I don't use my cinema display nearly as often as I would like because I can't tolerate the heat coming off of it for extended periods of time.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by gkya » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:51 PM UTC

csomar wrote: post #217

redm wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Mac OS but it gets regular updates and which each update, it's more demanding. The hardware needs to keep up. Try running IOS 7 on a Gen 3 iPhone.

So update your hardware regularly?

Maybe you can afford that, but many can't.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by csomar » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:52 PM UTC

SonicSoul wrote: post #308

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I love OSX but never understood why people pay so much for those apple displays. we use them at work and they suuuuuck. super heavy, can't adjust height, can't put it in portrait mode which is .. I don't know useful 40% of the time, glares like a mofo, and cost 2x-3x similar quality displays from not Apple. Is the look of them that desirable? i finally switched for same reso Dell units on my desk and really happy abo…

I don't use Apple displays although I use Apple hardware. I can justify putting a 4 digits if it makes my life easier. I don't see how an Apple display can do that. I found Dell/HP IPS to do the job for my charting needs.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by tinbad » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:52 PM UTC

SonicSoul wrote: post #308

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I love OSX but never understood why people pay so much for those apple displays. we use them at work and they suuuuuck. super heavy, can't adjust height, can't put it in portrait mode which is .. I don't know useful 40% of the time, glares like a mofo, and cost 2x-3x similar quality displays from not Apple. Is the look of them that desirable? i finally switched for same reso Dell units on my desk and really happy abo…

They look good on the outside... and that's about it. Btw, Apple has discontinued them and hasn't announced any replacement yet.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by SonicSoul » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:53 PM UTC

bradleyankrom wrote: post #313

SonicSoul wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love OSX but never understood why people pay so much for those apple displays. we use them at work and they suuuuuck. super heavy, can't adjust height, can't put it in portrait mode which is .. I don't know useful 40% of the time, glares like a mofo, and cost 2x-3x similar quality displays from not Apple. Is the look of them that desirable? i finally switched for same reso Dell units on my desk and really happy abo…

also, they run really warm... I don't use my cinema display nearly as often as I would like because I can't tolerate the heat coming off of it for extended periods of time.

oh yeah, our whole floor heats up so much they gave every person a futuristic Dyson fan to go with the display :) this can't be good for energy consumption either

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by issa » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:53 PM UTC

Eun wrote: post #222

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

Window management in OSX is horrible. Finder is even more horrible. It reminds me of the Windows 95 Explorer. A network drive hangs? Good luck with Finder..., the whole system halts.

My number one complaint about OSX is also window management. I've never found anything comparable to the way Windows 7 let you use the left/right arrows to line up windows on half the screen. That is the only thing I miss about Windows, but it's a pretty big one. Also, when dis/connecting monitors on OSX, windows often get lost.

ps- if anyone has any suggestions or recommendations, I'd love to hear them!

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by nottorp » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:53 PM UTC

m_mueller wrote: post #290

SippinLean wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying. I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware. Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps…

Specifically: * HiDPI support in all apps, whethere they are aware of it or not. * Built-in PDF editing and creation from all printable content. * POSIX scripting and CLI. * Very clean and consistent configuration system (defaults). Reset an app to factory? Delete one plist file and potentially an app support folder. Got a new Mac? You could even boot it up from the old harddisk. Good luck doing that with windows reg…

* Touchpad support.

I think most people who haven't used an Apple laptop extensively are not aware that the touchpad actually works, and you do not need to carry an external mouse to use the device comfortably.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by Keyframe » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 2:54 PM UTC

mwill wrote: post #135

Tepix wrote: post #52

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A new Mac Pro that can be upgraded by the user is great news for the Hackintosh community as well. There will be more drivers for more components.

Really hanging out for the nvidia Pascal drivers for my almost perfect pci passthrough VM system. I can run GPU accelerated Windows and Linux apps at (near) native speeds without rebooting, if Pascal drivers drop I'm off to the races with MacOS as well.

Can you go into a bit more detail? You're running Windows and Linux on Mac in a VM with graphics acc. at almost native speeds? Or on Linux running Windows, and possibly MacOS when (big IF) Nvidia releases Pascal drivers? If it's on Linux running Windows - I'm all ears.