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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

That's quite an exaggerated presumption. Office for mac has been around for years. VSC will more than likely give sublime a run for its money as they are very similar on the Mac platform. Just because microsoft ports VS, it doesn't reveal anything other than giving developers that prefer Macs another IDE choice. You can get a MBP without function keys and just because Apple has decided evolve their approach to the keyboard, it doesn't mean anything beyond that. It's very interesting that this has become such a hot topic in the dev community. Apple isn't abandoning devs, pure and simple.

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The people who make film/game soundtracks need a LOT of ram, and fast disks, because they're using terabytes of samples in each project. Also massive has pretty low requirements. The main gripe musicians have with apple is the new OSX breaking their setup every year. The sandboxing in el capitan was particularly disastrous.

It sounds like you're basing this argument on hearsay and not personal experience (shocker.) I have various audio setups with different macs and interfaces and no OS update has broken anything with my setups since 10.6 era.

My personal experience disagrees with you. Waves, Native Instruments, and others, have had various issues over the years with OS X upgrades. I have projects spanning several years that forced me to wait a revision or two before upgrading to ensure they would continue to load and mix down as intended.

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> If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work... This is extremely dishonest assessment that only 'Developers' do professional work. Mac is used by Engineers, CAD/CAM, designers, illustrators, artists, musicians, etc and to reduce it only to developers is disingenuous. I for one is happy with the new Mac and there are several people who've found it great for 'pro' use.

Weirdly from your list software developers are the only ones the New MBP can serve. It's got plenty of power to run XCode or a web dev environment. Engineers, CAD, musicians, 3D artists all need more power than it provides and increasingly need CUDA cores.

If you are an accountant even an underpowered PC is likely adequate.

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Page has gone. Other people (buried in the comments) have posted the google cache of it, but here is it again for visibility: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Vk2On-... Maybe a Feature Request for HN, would be for a 'alt' link (that mods update) as part of the clickables under the post title?

Strange, not sure if this is a bug or if MS published too early and retracted it? Edit: Thanks for the tip BTW. I had linked to this from a blog post, but have now removed the dead link ( https://unop.uk/cross-platform-native-mobile-app-development... ).

Almost definitely the latter. It was tagged `Connect()` which is a MS conference happening later this week. It's probably going to be announced there.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Meanwhile, a "pro" user who's actually used the new Macbook Pro weighs in: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/thomas-grove-carter/one-prof... Spoiler alert: he doesn't agree with the assessment of HN users who haven't actually used it.

As I understand, the new Macbook Pro has not been generally delivered yet. Is he has had one for a week, it must be through some special Apple program. So of course he likes it, otherwise he wouldn't have received one.

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That would be great news if the Microsoft c++ compiler was also part of it. Microsoft has added some amazing, in terms of performance, extensions to c++ lately, like coroutines support, that are not yet part of GCC or clang.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #315

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Strange, not sure if this is a bug or if MS published too early and retracted it? Edit: Thanks for the tip BTW. I had linked to this from a blog post, but have now removed the dead link ( https://unop.uk/cross-platform-native-mobile-app-development... ).

Almost definitely the latter. It was tagged `Connect()` which is a MS conference happening later this week. It's probably going to be announced there.

Ah OK, it was probably under embargo and got posted early by mistake. I've been to Connect(); before in a time zone ahead of the US and nothing gets announced in the morning until the US wakes up and the embargo is lifted.

Edit: FYI Connect(); is November 16th-18th starting 9:45am EST https://connectevent.microsoft.com

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I don't know if it's just the usual whining of people complaining about new things. From the exterior (I'm too young and the only Mac I've ever used was the Macintosh Plus - bragging , with 4Mo of RAM- while I was a child), it really seems like Apple has dropped the ball for professionals, both developers and graphics people. There are now equally well designed PCs (laptops and desktops) from other manufacturers, Win…

> equally well designed PCs That bit is debatable.

I agree, PC manufacturers havent quite caught on that less is more (at least aesthetically)

I see machines like the HP Spectre and feel they are still somewhat overdesigned.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Meanwhile, a "pro" user who's actually used the new Macbook Pro weighs in: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/thomas-grove-carter/one-prof... Spoiler alert: he doesn't agree with the assessment of HN users who haven't actually used it.

>I’m an editor at Trim Editing in London, where we cut high end commercials, music videos and films.

So not a programmer, and not someone who was using the function keys in the first place based on that article. Furthermore he claims it's "faster than editing on any windows system" because Final Cut Pro X is integrated so well with the hardware he doesn't need more memory or CPU. Sorry, of all the applications he could've chosen, claiming that a Windows box with more memory and a better CPU would be slower is... asinine. Fanboy alert.

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