Not surprising that this website doesn't see the problem with Thiel's bigotry.
You are part of this website too --- a prominent part of it, in fact, more invested in it than most of Thiel's HN defenders. Speak for yourself.
Peter Thiel To Join Trump Transition Team
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
> From all accounts he simply doesn't have the intellectual stamina Can you elaborate on what accounts these are? The only estimate I've seen of his intelligence was based the school he graduated from.
Intellectual stamina != Intelligence. I am referring to the fact that the Presidency has been described as far more an exercise in patience, absorbing information and careful deliberation than say running a typical business especially a dynamic one like Trump used to. He is by all accounts a very smart guy. But by all accounts he isn't a particularly patient one.
by all accounts
I'm not disagreeing with you; I'm just asking you to cite one or more of these accounts describing his lack of intellectual stamina.
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> and yet, 99% of you are frothing at the mouth over a man who said bad words 18 years ago. There are multiple reports and videos of crowds at his rallies chanting "Kill the bitch, "Hang the bitch", and "Lock her up". Trump knew this and condoned the behaviour. He has actively singled out members of the "corrupt media". I can respect political differences but this is not normal behaviour for a healthy democracy. It's…
> There are multiple reports and videos of crowds at his rallies chanting "Kill the bitch, "Hang the bitch", and "Lock her up". Trump knew this and condoned the behaviour. He has actively singled out members of the "corrupt media". Of all the things Trump has ever said or done in his life these 2 things aren't even close to the worst and were pretty poor choices for this argument. Both of these examples are just a re…
They were widely reported in the media. He could have taken the approach that McCain took in regards to Obama being called a muslim but instead he continued the rhetoric of "locking up crooked Hillary" and insinuated that the second amendment could be a solution. He was/is deliberately exploiting the anger of some people. History tells us that this is playing with fire.
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#314I don't understand how a gay man can support a political party who's platform wants to reverse marriage equality.
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He's a climate change denier, it would appear.
An outright denier, or a fuck-it-lets-solve-it-with-cool-shit-like-venentian-blind-satellite-swarms sort of guy?
The kind who hasn't stated a confident opinion on the matter, but is suspicious about how politicized the discussion is.
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#316This was obvious from the RNC speech and further reinforced when Thiel donated $1M to Trump. A contrarian bet, sure, but $1M is a pretty small price to pay to have a 50/50 shot at CTO of the USA. I'm sure he'll see a very significant ROI on his $1M once the government starts awarding contracts very conveniently to companies of which he owns a portion. I had very negative feelings about Thiel, and those were magnified…
Shrewd seems unfair. Political views and ethics aside, it turns out he's a genius.
He's a hypocrite who should not be given respect.
He's riding a wave of populist hatred, after complaining democracy is not compatible with freedom.
Apparently to him the way to freedom is fascism.
This just feels so like Hitler, marching across Europe, and everybody nodded and smiled politely. Taking a "this will fizzle out soon. Is ok." stance.
There are no tanks and bombs, and no utter chaos and death. But there is plenty of social-fascism afoot.
His power comes from people that want him to be kicked out of the country too. Too light in the loafers for them.
Peter Thiel is a despicable human being.
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If we believe all the recently headlines about who he's bringing in it appears pure "pay to play". Lots of individuals who Trump "owes" through either money or support they provided to him; pure cronyism. I'm not sure Trump realizes what worked best in business, or what he felt worked best for him in what business he has done, is not necessarily best for operating policy. I'm not sure he cares. I suspect he might tho…
Trump I suspect will be very similar to George W Bush. From all accounts he simply doesn't have the intellectual stamina to handle the rigours of the job. And I don't mean that in a negative way he is just more of a hands on, energetic, get shit done sort of guy. So in order to survive he is going to delegate to people like Guilani, Christie, Gingrich, Carson etc. Some of the most shameless, self serving and unethica…
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#318This is good news, I think? Thiel has some extremish views, but I generally regard him as intelligent and thoughtful. And he's in close contact with other smart, influential people (e.g. Musk, Sam Altman, etc.), which gives them some indirect influence. Not that this makes things substantially better. But maybe a little bit? Hopefully?
> I generally regard him as intelligent and thoughtful Based on a YouTube video mentioned in another comment thread ( https://youtu.be/CoxxGhLFbw4?t=2m30s ), I wouldn't regard him as intelligent by any means.
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> I'm sure he'll see a very significant ROI on his $1M once the government starts awarding contracts very conveniently to companies of which he owns a portion. Wasn't Trump rallying against such crony corruption aka 'pay for play'?
If we believe all the recently headlines about who he's bringing in it appears pure "pay to play". Lots of individuals who Trump "owes" through either money or support they provided to him; pure cronyism. I'm not sure Trump realizes what worked best in business, or what he felt worked best for him in what business he has done, is not necessarily best for operating policy. I'm not sure he cares. I suspect he might tho…
If we're talking about believing headlines it's important to note that headlines would have had you believe that 90% of the country was going to vote for Hillary. They've been very wrong and will likely continue to be wrong until proven otherwise.
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> In the event that he really does turn into Hitler, I promise to stand up to stop him along with all the other people who will. Well, that's nice - although you just agreed to something you believe won't happen. I don't believe he will, either; but are you standing up to what his electorate is doing? http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/11/trump-voters-threatened-wome... Take it from someone who saw what Brexit did to the U…
It seems that you want people with opinions you find odious to be unhappy all the time and accept that as their lot in life. If I've understood that correctly, by what mechanism do you propose this work?
What I did was describe the current situation in the US. I'm making no particular remark, in the post you're replying to, on what I want out of "people with opinions I find odious".
If someone is willing to say that they would stand up to an ethnic cleansing, I think it's reasonable to ask them at what point they'll stand up to it.
I do find cultural bigotry to be odious though and to answer your question, I will not protect the rights of people to threaten and kill others. I will not defend a culture that promotes the exclusion of classes of people by skin color, religion, accent, gender or even political leanings.
I don't know why you're asking me what mechanism would make this work. People's unhappiness has very little impact on whether policies work. Otherwise, we wouldn't be having this discussion, as the things I refuse to defend would not be happening in the first place.