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The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
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Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#312The response to this this on Twitter would be beyond fucked- up if it weren't so completely predictable. People are posting direct links to the dump, screenshots of lists of emails, and statistics for classes of domains. The general reaction to the availability of the dump is reasonably characterized as "glee". But no matter what you think about Ashley Madison --- and I think A.M. is so comically scummy that I had tr…
From watching friends deal with divorce, adultery isn't even illegal/prosecuted/considered in distribution of assets, at least in practice. At best this is a mass-outing of people who suck at monogamy.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great comment, Thomas. I had an argument with my girlfriend about this. No matter what reasoning I used, no matter what I said, she could not agree that it was wrong that Ashley Madison (A.M.) was hacked. Her position was that marital infidelity is such a pubishable offense that the participants on A.M. deserve to be publicly outed. In her view, it was not even up for debate. She felt so powerfully about in…
The elevation of monogamy and closed relationships as the God-given natural status of a couple is the source of too many problems. Same for not living our own sexuality in the open. By acting like this (that is: like you are supposed to) you are constantly prone to blackmail. If you happen to have a wife that is entitled in her social-induced belief that even thinking about other women is good ground for the terminat…
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#314Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does anybody need to restate the obvious: Go through the OPM leak and cross-check everybody with TS-SCI clearance with the AM database. Bingo-presto, big list of folks you can blackmail to do government favors. Take about 2 minutes.
Cool thing about public dump: you can't be blackmailed via something everybody knows already. If you're a victin of the AM disclosure and have TS clearance, it's in your best interest to come clean and not try to bury that information.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#315Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does anybody need to restate the obvious: Go through the OPM leak and cross-check everybody with TS-SCI clearance with the AM database. Bingo-presto, big list of folks you can blackmail to do government favors. Take about 2 minutes.
If you're blackmailable, or financially in dire straits, you should not hold a TS clearance. Seriously. End of story. If someone with a TS clearance ever has someone attempt to blackmail them, they're obligated to tell their boss and security officer(s).
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#316The response to this this on Twitter would be beyond fucked- up if it weren't so completely predictable. People are posting direct links to the dump, screenshots of lists of emails, and statistics for classes of domains. The general reaction to the availability of the dump is reasonably characterized as "glee". But no matter what you think about Ashley Madison --- and I think A.M. is so comically scummy that I had tr…
You, sir, are moralizing just as much as anyone else. This situation is not ethically clean-cut, despite how badly you want it to be. The website's existence itself is -- at the very best -- ethically and morally questionable. The hack, while technically illegal, is arguably a morally righteous act. You can't say that there is nothing ethically acceptable about sharing this data, when its very existence is ethically…
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#317The response to this this on Twitter would be beyond fucked- up if it weren't so completely predictable. People are posting direct links to the dump, screenshots of lists of emails, and statistics for classes of domains. The general reaction to the availability of the dump is reasonably characterized as "glee". But no matter what you think about Ashley Madison --- and I think A.M. is so comically scummy that I had tr…
"and come on, 98% of the people talking about this on Twitter barely recognize that [marital infidelity] as ethically problematic in the first place" What makes you say that? In my experience it is extremely rare to find anybody who thinks cheating on a partner is ethical, and I see no reason to think this particular group is any different. This is one of those things that most people feel very strongly about, and al…
> how do you make a case that it's unethical for dragnet traffic looking for people who want to blow up civilians with homemade bombs?
Many of these proponents of the hack will unabashedly praise this hack for making these 'cheaters' identities public, but would surely argue against the use of hacking for releasing their own private account information for any site they have an account on.
The hypocrisy comes from the fact that hacking is a double-edged sword, and people are failing to see the other edge.
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#318There is a side of modern society that does not have either the patience or sense of fairness to verify something before acting on it.
Put another way, what do you think would happen to you if an "account" was leaked that, indeed, had your picture, name, E-mail address and home city? Do you really think that the first 10 messages you receive from people will be to confirm that the account is yours? No: my money is on you losing 40 Facebook friends immediately, receiving several vitriolic messages, a pink slip from your boss and some screaming phone calls before maybe — maybe — one friend with sense then asks if you actually created the account.
Re: The Ashley Madison Database Was Leaked
#319The response to this this on Twitter would be beyond fucked- up if it weren't so completely predictable. People are posting direct links to the dump, screenshots of lists of emails, and statistics for classes of domains. The general reaction to the availability of the dump is reasonably characterized as "glee". But no matter what you think about Ashley Madison --- and I think A.M. is so comically scummy that I had tr…
I don't like anything about that site and I have a really hard time feeling sorry for people getting "outed" by it, but you're absolutely right. Allowing the illegal when it's convenient for you is not okay, even though much of the public is totally fine with violating people's privacy as long as it fits their world view.
We already saw the response when a newspaper in NY published a map of registered gun owners a few years back.
With medical records digitized, what the public response be to publicly disclosing abortion data? We've already seen the general response to planned parenthood videos.
Your data privacy is either important or it's not. There can't be this "I think these people deserve it so it's okay now" convenience case.
But as somebody else said, when they're emotionally invested they don't care.
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#320What is worrying about this is that some people are in real physical danger because of this leak. It probably seemed like fun and "social justice" for the hackers but it's not. There are people who live in countries where adultery is punishable by death. Likewise for being gay. There's already one person from Saudi Arabia who expressed his concerns on Reddit but there's likely to be a lot of other people affected. An…
What is more worrying for me is that people in real physical danger would hand over that kind of information in the first place. There's very little stopping an employee at a company from selling this information to governments in these countries, or employees originating from these countries being forced to divulge the information. The real issue is that this information was freely given up in the first place. Hacks…