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Re: Magic

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Post by octatoan »

jboggan wrote: post #257
downandout wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you visit this link, you can pay them $5,000: http://getmagicnow.com/pay.php?p=500000 Payment pages should really be linked to an order ID of some sort, without which customers shouldn't be allowed to pay. Otherwise, lots of things can go wrong. Depending on how they have configured things on the server side, a customer could change the amount being paid and the system would consider the ticket paid, cheating them…

If you visit this link, they can pay you $5,000: https://magic.bettir.com/?p=-500000

Wait, what?

Re: Magic

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Post by octatoan »

aaronem wrote: post #99
zaroth wrote: post #85

I love the idea, and the execution, but just one nit -- you say "no hidden fees", but I think bundling the fee into the total price is the definition of a hidden fee . If your examples itemized the fee it would be a different story. Other comments here express a similar anxiety, e.g. how much [extra] am I actually paying for this? Also, I know you're busy, but FYI CA state law requires you have a Privacy Policy. I wo…

When you're using a concierge service is not the time to pinch pennies. Corollary: When you're pinching pennies is not the time to use a concierge service. The whole point of a concierge service, such as this, is to have someone on call to whom you may say "Here is my problem. Make it go away." Such services generally come at a much higher rate than Magic appear to be charging.

I think there's a fallacy here . . .

Re: Magic

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Post by weixiyen »

dirtyaura wrote: post #265

Have you thought about chargeback risks? I.e. when you hit mass-market there will be a non-trivial number of attempts in which customer cancels the payment to you after receiving the ordered product on the basis that it was not what he ordered. It seems that it can be quite a mess to figure those situations out due to suppliers being so varied.

it's probably way too early to worry about that, they just need to grow and deal with actual issues that are coming up today.

Re: Magic

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Post by weixiyen »

known wrote: post #294

408-217-1721 in https://archive.today/2ZmPj

This is nice to know but I really think it's a questionable thing to do considering they specifically want to omit the number from their current website :/

Re: Magic

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Post by kmfrk »

exogen wrote: post #232
mkagenius wrote: post #226

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Offtopic: your iPhone is pretty long :) or you used something like Stitch It! ?

did it manually, I'm afraid.

Get the app Tailor; it'll do it for you. :)

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tailor-automatic-screenshot/...

Maybe the Magic people should promote a tool, since word-of-mouth promotion can be hard without.

Re: Magic

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Post by prawn »

dirtyaura wrote: post #247
api wrote: post #109

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But how can you disrupt without parallax? ... And thanks. I thought I was the only one who thought the video fad was dumb. Now it's just a toll booth for getting a product presented, and I never watch them. How about others? Do you find videos actually useful or are they just glitz?

thinking that everybody prefers reading is a typical programmer bias. A good number of people will prefer watching a video. Same with voice, most programmers prefer email or chat for work related discussion. Almost all the sales people I know would rather pick up the phone and sort the issue by talking.

Do both and you can cover both camps. Doesn't have to be as boring as a plain transcript, obviously.

(I very rarely watch videos and much prefer screenshots or descriptions.)

Re: Magic

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Post by everyone »

Does no one else consider the idea of this horribly decadent? They give as an example, ordering a delivery pizza for you, which is already a decadent activity and something you can accomplish with a single phone call anyway. Maybe for the rich high-flying silicon valley types, your time and brain space is so valuable that this service makes sense. But if that is the case maybe you should re-examine your lives.

Re: Magic

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Post by codygman »

jboggan wrote: post #257
downandout wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you visit this link, you can pay them $5,000: http://getmagicnow.com/pay.php?p=500000 Payment pages should really be linked to an order ID of some sort, without which customers shouldn't be allowed to pay. Otherwise, lots of things can go wrong. Depending on how they have configured things on the server side, a customer could change the amount being paid and the system would consider the ticket paid, cheating them…

If you visit this link, they can pay you $5,000: https://magic.bettir.com/?p=-500000

Whoa, seriously? I'm going to guess you're joking since they probably implemented "customer order of amount x".

Re: Magic

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Post by scarlson »

slaction wrote: post #230
bhaumik wrote: post #202

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Hm, well here's a startling difference between the HN and Product Hunt community. The PH comments: This website looks extremely untrustworthy, purely from a design standpoint. I feel a lot of potential users would be put off by this! Interesting idea. Terrible site design. Unclear if they're charging for this added convenience. http://www.producthunt.com/posts/magic

ProductHunt is just a useless hype machine for starts that don't hold any real value at all.

There are those that would say HN is no different.

Re: Magic

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Post by scrollaway »

everyone wrote: post #307

Does no one else consider the idea of this horribly decadent? They give as an example, ordering a delivery pizza for you, which is already a decadent activity and something you can accomplish with a single phone call anyway. Maybe for the rich high-flying silicon valley types, your time and brain space is so valuable that this service makes sense. But if that is the case maybe you should re-examine your lives.

This isn't interesting because of pizzas. This is interesting because of the potential to centralize and offload all decisions of a certain type. It's like a pay-per-use secretary.

What I do find.. "decadent"... is people like you, judging masses of other people on the basis of what they find interesting or useful. Especially when you can't see past the low hanging fruit and aren't able to grasp any potential a service might have.

Piece of advice: If a majority of people are interested and finding use in a service, re-examine your own evaluation skills before telling everyone else to re-examine their lives.

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